Killing tears the soul apart redux.
Hagrid
aussie_lol at yahoo.com.au
Sun Sep 4 16:06:27 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 139514
(snipped)
> I (Tammy Rizzo) said:
> > > Right there in black and white, very much canonical. *Killing*
> > rips the soul apart. The act of taking another's life tears your
> > soul apart.
>
> Then CMC said:
> > He first says "murder", and it may be interpreted that he is
> > defining as "killing" only those acts which fall under
> > the definition of "murder." The Sixth Biblical Commandment
> > which is often erroneously translated as "Thou shalt not
> > kill" should actually be rendered as "Thou shalt not murder"
> > - the Hebrew verb "tirsah" which is used in the Mosaic
> > commandment is not one of the common verbs associated with
> > killing an enemy on the field of battle, killing a sacrificial
> > animal, or executing a convicted malefactor (all three of
> > these deeds meet with Scriptural approval when properly
> > conducted) - rather, it is associated with the cold-blooded
> > execution of a personal enemy, or killing for personal
> > gain (as opposed to killing to protect the community).
> > >
> Now I (Tammy Rizzo) say again:
> I had already known about the more correct rendering of the sixth
commandment as being
> 'thou shalt not murder', but I do find it very interesting, the
differences in meaning. I also find it
> VERY interesting that, apparently, Harry doesn't make any
distinction between 'kill' and
> 'murder'. ... He has not yet, it seems, learned to make such a
distintion between cold-
> blooded, pre-meditated murder, and a 'rightous' killing, such as
> in defence. ... I wonder if this is JKR's personal view, as
well? For
> myself, though, I can see and accept a difference between killing
and murder. Of course, I can
> also see and accept the worth of execution and/or assassination in
general, ...
>
> So, Slughorn may have ... been echoing JKR's sentiments (if that
is what she
> believes), or he may have been stating bald fact, that killing,
whatever the circumstances, does
> great harm to the soul of he who kills.
>
aussie objects:
Harry (and JKR) still considers the EXECUTION of a murderer to
damage the soul. Why? Harry's reason in POA to stop Lupin and Black
from killing Peter together was "I don't reckon my dad would've
wanted them (Lupin & Black) to become killers -- just for you
(Peter)."
I also notice the OOTP guards in Hogwarts in HBP didn't AK any DE.
The only fatality during the battle came from a stray curse from
another DE that hit their own wizard. JKR protected the Order and DA
members from "ripping their soul apart".
aussie
(PS: JKR may differ greatly from Mosaic law in this case. If your
occupation is a military or police snipper, feel free to save my
hide if I am the hostage.)
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