Killing tears the soul apart redux.

Hagrid aussie_lol at yahoo.com.au
Sun Sep 4 16:06:27 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139514

(snipped)
> I (Tammy Rizzo) said:
> > > Right there in black and white, very much canonical. *Killing* 
> > rips the soul apart. The act of taking another's life tears your 
> > soul apart. 
> 
> Then CMC said:
> > He first says "murder", and it may be interpreted that he is 
> > defining as "killing" only those acts which fall under 
> > the definition of "murder." The Sixth Biblical Commandment 
> > which is often erroneously translated as "Thou shalt not 
> > kill" should actually be rendered as "Thou shalt not murder"
> >  - the Hebrew verb "tirsah" which is used in the Mosaic 
> > commandment is not one of the common verbs associated with 
> > killing an enemy on the field of battle, killing a sacrificial 
> > animal, or executing a convicted malefactor (all three of 
> > these deeds meet with Scriptural approval when properly 
> > conducted) - rather, it is associated with the cold-blooded 
> > execution of a personal enemy, or killing for personal 
> > gain (as opposed to killing to protect the community).
> > > 
> Now I (Tammy Rizzo) say again:
> I had already known about the more correct rendering of the sixth 
commandment as being 
> 'thou shalt not murder', but I do find it very interesting, the 
differences in meaning.  I also find it 
> VERY interesting that, apparently, Harry doesn't make any 
distinction between 'kill' and 
> 'murder'.  ...  He has not yet, it seems, learned to make such a 
distintion between cold-
> blooded, pre-meditated murder, and a 'rightous' killing, such as 
> in defence.  ...  I wonder if this is JKR's personal view, as 
well?  For 
> myself, though, I can see and accept a difference between killing 
and murder.  Of course, I can 
> also see and accept the worth of execution and/or assassination in 
general, ...
> 
> So, Slughorn may have ... been echoing JKR's sentiments (if that 
is what she 
> believes), or he may have been stating bald fact, that killing, 
whatever the circumstances, does 
> great harm to the soul of he who kills.
> 

aussie objects:
Harry (and JKR) still considers the EXECUTION of a murderer to 
damage the soul. Why? Harry's reason in POA to stop Lupin and Black 
from killing Peter together was "I don't reckon my dad would've 
wanted them (Lupin & Black) to become killers -- just for you
(Peter)."

I also notice the OOTP guards in Hogwarts in HBP didn't AK any DE. 
The only fatality during the battle came from a stray curse from 
another DE that hit their own wizard. JKR protected the Order and DA 
members from "ripping their soul apart".
aussie
(PS: JKR may differ greatly from Mosaic law in this case. If your 
occupation is a military or police snipper, feel free to save my 
hide if I am the hostage.)






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