Academic dishonesty

[eggplant107]

No: HPFGUIDX 139540

<lady.indigo at g...> wrote:

> Just because she's bound by
> the recipe doesn't mean she
> [ Hermione] doesn't know why
> that recipe is how it is. 

That's true, it is not proof Hermione doesn't understand why potions
work the way they do, but then again, we have never seen one shred of
evidence that she does understand why potions work the way they do.
The absolute proof,the thing that would end the discussion once and
for all would be for Herminie to make one original potion, just one
would be enough. But we have not seen that from any student. 

> The instructions aren't *lousy*.
> They create the potion they're
> supposed to create

Apparently not. Even Hermione couldn't make the potion successfully
following the dumb instructions in the very official Ministry approved
completely uncontroversial textbook. Although I must admit it seems
likely Umbridge would have loved the book. 

> just a weaker form of it or with
> some mild side effects. 

And that differs from lousy because 

 

> the debate is whether or not Harry
> is wrong, yes? 

No, not entirely. Putting the blackest possible take on Harry actions,
far blacker than I think is justified, I can't come up with a word
stronger than "naughty" to descried it, but other members of this
group have used words like horrified, repulsed, appalled and
disgusted; words of that caliber I think should be reserved for things
like tying a very nice 14 year old boy to a tombstone and torturing
him so horribly he wants to die. That is horrifying repulsive
appalling and disgusting.  

> If we've gotten into 'it's cheating,
> but come on, the kid's gonna save the
> world' or whatever your justification
> is then I almost feel like we're done here. 

Well, I truly and sincerely do not believe Harry cheated in any way
whatsoever, but even if I'm wrong I don't care much. The reason I say
that is because I know of the absolute mind numbing hell Harry has
gone through over the last 6 years, things that would have turned a
normal person like me who was not as intrinsically good as Harry into
a monster that would make Hannibal Lector look like Mr. Rodgers.

And yes, if somebody is going to save the world and most likely die in
the process I'm willing to cut that person a tiny little bit of slack.

> And to answer your question, if I
> were Harry I would never have done
> it in the first place.
 
Hmmm.  

Eggplant