Killing tears the soul apart redux. WAS: Re: Snape's penance?

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 139606

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wrote:

> Why? Because any killing which I had read  about in potterverse so
> far  was not justified yet.
> 
> You name it - murder of Potters, Sirius death, death of twelve
> muggles  by Peter, murder of Amelia Bones, Evelyne Vance,etc, etc. 
> 
> In fact, if you could provide an evidence of ANY killing in 
> Potterverse, which was deemed OK by the narrator, I would be very 
> surprised.

Pippin:
Slughorn was willing to invite Neville into the Slug Club, though
his parents are aurors and aurors are expected to kill in the line of
duty, so I don't think his horror of killing extends as far as you 
think. I don't think he meant to equate all killing with murder.

No one is worried by Harry's ambition to be an auror, either.

 I don't think we are supposed to believe that even a wizard
who killed accidentally, or in the line of duty, or in self-defense, 
could make a horcrux, or the idea of them would not fill Slughorn
and every other decent wizard with such horror. 

Peter had surrendered, he was begging for his life, and in such
circumstances Moody would have brought him in alive, if we are
to believe Sirius. What Sirius and Lupin were about to do was
wrong, even by Sirius's own standards. 

It was thought wrong for the aurors to kill needlessly or using the 
Unforgivable curse( which, if Bella is corrrect, cannot be performed 
effectively in a  righteous state of mind.) But I can't see that the 
narrator thinks  Moody's soul is torn apart, that he owes some 
restitution  for the killing he did, or that Harry could have made
a horcrux if Snape hadn't shown up in time and Draco had bled to 
death despite Harry's horror at what he had done. 

It's true that Harry thought at the end of OOP that killing Voldemort
would be murder, but at that point he thought he was going to have
to do it because of the prophecy, not because Voldemort would 
never rest until he or Harry was dead and because Harry owed it
to his parents to see that no more people met the same fate. Once 
Dumbledore had  explained that properly, Harry felt much better about 
what he was being asked to do -- not dragging Voldemort into the 
arena, or being dragged by him,  but both of them entering it because 
of the choices they'd made.

Pippin