OFH!Snape scenario (Long)

[houyhnhnm102]

No: HPFGUIDX 139758

Marianne:
 
> I'm sure you meant "law and order," but I've got to say when I read 
> that I got a great picture in my head of disdainful Snape glaring 
> furiously at an unclipped lawn decorated with too many gnome
statues!

houyhnhnm:

Actually I meant lawn odor, but I was afraid most people wouldn't get
it. (I guess you have to be an American of a certain age.)
 
Marianne:

> I'm a little confused here.  I get the sense that your 
> description of subtle Snape is an indication that underneath it
all, 
> he disapproves with or is repulsed by Voldemort's crudeness, which
I 
> can agree with.  But, why then, would he be willing to kill for a 
> New World Order. Whose?  It doesn't seem like you think it would 
> ultimately be in service of Voldemort's grand plan.

houyhnhnm:

Because I am speculating that at first Snape may have seen Voldemort
as someone who was going to create a meritocracy in which intelligence
and loyalty (like his--as he sees it) would be rewarded, in contrast
to Dumbledore's Hogwarts where people like James and Sirius are the
favored ones just because they are attractive and popular, in spite of
their rule-breaking, careless attitude toward their studies, etc.  He
may have felt that ruthless means were justified to bring this about.
 It seems to be a common attitude among people who join fascist or
racist causes in RL.
 
Then after he joined Voldemort's cause, he discovered that LV was just
a crude braggart and the Death Eaters were just a bunch of hooligans,
far worse than the Marauders, who killed and tortured for sport.  The
world they were going to create would be worse than the one he had
turned against.

I'm not saying that's the only reason he "rejoined our side".  The
Snape/Lily SHIPPERS are starting to convince me more and more, not so
much because it makes psychological sense to me as because there *do*
seem to be a lot of clues in the books that indicate this may be the
case.

Marianne:

> I'm not so sure.  OFH!Snape might be curious to know the prophecy, 
> but delivering it, or assisting Vmort in getting it, may compromise 
> his position straddling both sides.

houyhnhnm:

I wasn't really trying to make that case.  I was just saying that
Snape's seeming lack of curiosity about the prophecy is a puzzle to
me.  I don't know what it means.

I think the fact that Snape alerted the Order to LV's designs on the
prophecy so soon after he formed them disproves Loyal DE!Snape,
irrefutably.  (The Order has people standing guard by August and where
else could the information have come from?)

It is consistant with DD's Man!Snape but doesn't really prove it.

What it does to the OFH!Snape theory is something I can't figure out.