Rulebreaking (was OFH!Snape scenario)

kiricat4001 zarleycat at sbcglobal.net
Fri Sep 9 03:36:36 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139829

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "saraquel_omphale" 
<saraquel_omphale at y...> wrote:
> 
> houyhnmhnm wrote:
> >Snape has an almost prissy regard for lawn order. He's still 
> >carrying an enormous chip around on his shoulder over the fact 
that 
> >the
> >rule-breaking, DD's trust-betraying Marauders were the fair-haired
> >sons, while School Boy Severus (who kept his promise to DD not to
> >reveal Lupin's secret for somewhere around 18 years) is treated 
like
> >the bastard step child. His biggest gripe about Harry is the way
> >Harry is allowed to get away with rule breaking.
> 
> Saraquel:
> When I first read this, I thought no, because I was thinking about 
> the creative Snape who breaks the rules in the potions book and is 
> constantly looking for new ways to do things, and the spy!Snape, 
who 
> has made up his own rule book.  But then I reread it and saw what 
> you were talking about, and absolutely agreed with you.  Which is 
of 
> course a seeming contradiction.  But thinking about that seems to 
> get to the heart of Snape.  
> 
> Yes I agree, he absolutely loves lawn order. On the inside is 
> someone who wants to write the rules – who does write the rules 
for 
> himself and then lives by them because he has created them and 
knows 
> that they work. An intensely logical man, who plots his way 
through 
> life.  He has enormous respect for rules and I think that is what 
> really p****s him off re the Marauders – he follows the rules (if 
we 
> are to believe his lack of punishment record), but doesn't get any 
> attention for that from anyone, it doesn't bring him the respect 
> that he thinks he deserves.

Marianne: 

Which brings up another question.  If the rules are laid out, and 
one follows the rules, why then should one expect extra attention, 
praise, rewards, pats on the head, or what have you for following 
them?  Following the rules is what is expected.  Doing so should not 
lead to higher recognition from the powers that be, whether we're 
talking about the headmaster of a school or whatever version of a 
god figure one wishes to follow.

I think Snape's annoyance with the Marauders was that their 
punishment for rulebreaking didn't change their behavior. 
McGonagall's and Hagrid's comments in the Three Broomsticks in PoA 
suggest that the teaching staff were well aware of the trouble-
making potential of at least James and Sirius, if not all four 
Marauders.  And Snape's punishment of Harry in HBP in transcribing 
the old detention records where James' and Sirius' names showed up 
with regular frequency seem to indicate that, for two boys known for 
their intelligence, they got caught in their rule-breaking fairly 
frequently.

I think that what got up Snape's nose as a student was that he never 
thought that what the staff of Hogwarts meted out in punishment was 
sufficient because he never saw that it changed James' or Sirius' 
behavior.  Thus, it would be easy for him to say they were never 
punished enough because nothing ever changed. JKR has described 
Sirius as being the most rebellious of the Marauders.  So, perhaps 
what was considered by Hogwarts staff as standard, acceptable  
punishment for misdeeds would never rein him in. And this, I think, 
would make Snape crazy.

I dearly want to get ALL the background on the Prank, including 
whatever punishment was meted out.  

Marianne






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