ESE Slughorn Continued
lebowjessica
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Fri Sep 9 04:52:23 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 139850
This is Jessie after my reread of HBP and why I think Slughorn is ESE.
continued from my post on Horcruxes.
IMO LV does not have confidence in Malfoy being able to kill DD, so
he needs someone inside of Hogwarts to keep tabs on both Malfoy and
Snape, what better person than Slughorn? I am not sure if Slughorn
is willing or an unwilling spy for LV, but I am sure that he is
guiding and bullying Malfoy simultaneously watching that Snape is
sharing all he knows, and monitoring DD to his physical condition and
his quest for the Horcruxes. Snape has told the Bellatrix and
Narcissa that Dumbledore is wounded and vulnerable; HBP p 31).
Chapter 15 HBP pages
323-324 Malfoy tells Snape that "I've got all the assistance
I need,
thanks, I'm not alone!" and, when Snape asks him, "if you
are placing
your reliance in assistants like Crabbe and Goyle ", Malfoy
responds, "They're not the only ones, I've got other
people on my
side, better people!" Who else besides Greyback could Malfoy
mean, no
one but Slughorn IMO. If we have learned anything from JKR's books
it is the fact that the new guy is never what he seems to be, and
this is very evident in Slughorn.
1. Horace Slughorn was the head of Slytherin house for many years -
and an admirer and associate of Lord Voldemort, he also is among the
few that know that Tom Riddle is LV and the heir of Slytherin.
(2) When DD asks him if his sofa disguise ruse before he and Harry
arrives was for him or the DE's , Slughorn "demands" him to
explain
what that crowd would want with him. Dumbledore explains, "I
imagine
they would want you to turn your considerable talents to coercion,
torture, and murder" and asks him if he is not being recruited.
Slughorn says he has been in hiding to avoid them. (chapter 4,HBP p
68);) IMO Slughorn is not insulted when DD in jest or seriously
suggests that the Death Eaters would think of him as a natural ally,
he never does answer the question if he is hiding from DD, as he
seems to be. DE visit , was a ploy to win Dumbledore's
confidence
that he had not yet been recruited by the bad guys yet. Slughorn
recognizes the ring on DD's hand on this visit because DD makes a
point of waving it in his face, Harry notices the ring on DD's good
hand for the first time as well .Slughorn's eyes lingered for a
moment on the ring too, and Harry saw a tiny frown momentarily crease
his wide forehead" (HBP, pp 67-68). Tom Riddle was wearing this
ring
when he asked Slughorn about the Horcruxes. DD does not wear the
ring again in the book so it might be assumed he did so here to
impress Slughorn with his "collection" or knowledge of
Horcruxes; I
also forgot Slughorn's failure to conjure the Dark Mark, the fact
that he knows how to do makes him a very likely a DE.
3). Slughorn is a collector like LV but of people with influential
contacts, he only values people whose contacts,and skills that can
help him advace and gain power.
4). Slughorn gives Harry the HBP's text book Harry is the big prize
Slughorn wants for his collection, the bait DD uses to bring Slughorn
out of retirement. Slughorn sets Harry up for great success in class
by giving Harry a book that has all the answers to every question and
potion in advance. The book is like the invites to the Slug Club, he
wants the Harry the "chosen one" because he thinks that Harry will
help him some day when he becomes powerful and or he is working for
LV and is trying assure his own life.
5).When Harry asks him about the Horcruxes, Slughorn shifts from
jovialness and friendship to "shocked, terrified" and in a
cold sweat
yelling at Harry about DD and the Horcrux memory (HBP p 379-
380). "Slug Club" parties cease, if Slughorn later regains
his
composure and friendliness with Harry. Does Slughorn realize his
vulnerability at this time and wonder at how he can get on
Voldemort's good side? Or is he terrified that DD is sending him
a
signal that he knows he is working for LV?
6). He is definately helping Malfoy, who else is brewing all that
Poly Juice Potion?
7).Slughorn's refusal to give the memory to DD or Harry before he
seemingly drinking himself into a stupor after Aragog's burial
has to
count againsWe know that he is terrified by the idea of Harry or
Dumbledore learning about the Horcrux memory. He is also an
accomplished drinker. Does he give Harry the Horcrux memory, then,
because he suddenly has completely lost his bearings under the
influence of wine or because the Dark Lord has told him he must and
this is a golden opportunity? This is a wizard that Dumbledore
describes as "an extremely able wizard," "accomplished in
Occlumency," and one who carries antidotes to potions lest he be
coerced into spilling his memories (chapter 17 HBP p 372.)
His gathering of "greens" and dusk and milking of Arragog also makes
me suspcious that it is he who makes the green "liquid boggart" that
DD drinks from the Pensive in the Cave.
8) Slughorn's reaction to being told that DD has been murdered by
Snape is not one of grief it is more of an embarassment that the
other professors will associate him poorly with Snape
If he is not a Death Eater from the get go, Horace Slughorn at least
spends the better part of the year trying to play both sides of the
field, I think, and rather aggressively. He makes contact with the
DE's through Malfoy, Bellatrix nephew, and secretly helps him in his
efforts to kill DD (perhaps by placing the Imperius curse on
Rosmerta, if he does seem genuinely shocked that Malfoy has doped his
gift). He tries, at the same time, to recruit or otherwise win favor
with Harry in case DD is successful in collecting and destroying LV's
Horcruxes. Being power hungry and a coward Slughorn contacts LV, and
not only helps Malfoy with the Vanishing Cabinet Repair job , but
also IMO sends DD to the cave to drink the poisoned liquid. We know
that DD learns about the cave on the day the cabinets are repaired
and Malfoy can call in his DE friends. Coincidence I don't think so.
We know that an accomplished wizard has switched out the Horcruxe in
the basin and left a faux Horcrux with a note seemingly from Regulus
Black as well as an impenetrable emerald green potion that
DD "assumes" he must drink.
If Regulus Black left the faux LV Horcrux necklace in its original
spot (not the cave I am not sure yet,) and Slughorn or LV found it,
Slughorn could have created with LV s help the trap in the Cave, to
include the poisoned potion. Slughorn would only then have to fix the
Vanishing Cabinet and send DD to the Cave (and tell him to be sure
to bring a crystal goblet) on the night of the DE invasion of
Hogwarts. The trap would then be sprung.
Sorry for the long post love to hear your comments.
Jessie
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