[HPforGrownups] Re: Dealing with Dementors: Harry v Snape, Love v Happy

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 140076

 > Carol:
> It's possible that Hermione will face a Dementor in Book 7, fail
> utterly to cast a Patronus because she can't concentrate on a happy
> memory in the circumstances, and remember Snape's method. 

Valky:
But did Snape ever actually elaborate on or teach this alternative method? I 
don't remember that he did at all. 

...I don't believe that Snapes method of dealing with Dementors is what 
you'd call *light* magic. A better method than a Patronus would be necessary 
to explainhow the MOM keep control over the Dementors in Azkaban, and for 
Death Eaters and Voldemort to have so much more power over them than the 
average wizard. 

Basically it all adds up to not boding for this alternative of Snapes to be 
good magic. The MOM is given to using a bit of dirty work when they deem it 
justified, and Voldemort there is no question, would use whatever 
alternative was more powerful... It almost seems given that this alternative 
is Dark Magic.

 Kemper now:
I doubt if either the MoM or Voldemort use Dark Magic to control Dementors, 
not because it seems counter-intuitive for Dark Magic to control Dark 
Beings, but rather because both the MoM and Voldemort seem to give the 
Dementors a Dark Promise: a supply of Happy Thoughts provided by 
supposed/convicted criminals (MoM) and by the innocent (Voldemort).
 Needless to say... I disagree with Valky's argument regarding Snapes way 
with Dementors. I'm not arguing that it's Bright Magic he uses, but it is 
definitely not Dark Magic. 
 Kemper,
who wonders what would happen if a Patronus was used against a Phoenix... 
and who is aware that Statistics can be counter-intuitive: there's like an 
80% chance of two students having the same birthday in one class... that 
just seems wrong, though I know it to be true.


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