That darn Prophecy again.. Re: Thin air/Choices
justcarol67
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Thu Sep 15 02:02:54 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 140180
Valky wrote:
> <snip> I am becoming rather attached to the idea that the scar shape
> is the sign of Voldemorts curse attacking. It confuses a little,
> because it seems to say that Harry is/was a Horcrux when he got the
> scar, but I actually think that is not quite right, and that rather
> the best way to look at it as to imagine Harry as a mirror.
>
> This kind of brings us back to the ritual or plan Voldemort had for
> killing Harry. Dumbledore sees that Voldemort chose Harry based on
> their likenesses, and if he is not wide of the mark, then perhaps it
> was their likenesses that Voldemort deduced held the key to
> vanquishing him. So he went to GH, with a deliberate plan to
undermine Harry's likeness to him and use it to destroy him.
<snip>
> Harry's eyes would then essentially reflect the magic straight back
at Voldemort, and Voldemorts curse would activate sending death
straight back at Harry. But the curse cannot kill Harry, because Harry
has done nothing wrong, nothing at all. And the curse will only
destroy the one who tried to kill Voldemort, so it bursts back out of
Harry and straight at Voldemort. Voldemort might be the one the curse
is meant to protect, but he is also the guilty party who tried to kill
the protected, the curse is too crude really to see the difference and
it kills Voldemort, in the meantime blowing up the house in it's
confusion. <snip>
Carol responds:
I think you're overcomplicating matters. We already have Lily's
self-sacrifice as the reason that the AK rebounded. (I'd like for her
to have performed a protective charm in addition to the sacrifice, but
there's no need for Voldemort to have performed a curse. He just wants
to AK the prophecy boy.)
The one point where I agree with you is that the scar was caused by
the curse (the AK, not some Horcrux-relatated curse) bursting
*outward*. The resulting opening might have allowed some of LV's
powers (Parseltongue and possibly some degree of Legilimency or
possession) to enter Harry, but LV kept what remained of his soul.
It's his body that exploded.
I'm not an advocate of "face value" reading (we know the narrator can
be unreliable and we shouldn't trust a character's interpretation
fully, either), but I do think Voldemort would have said something to
Harry in the graveyard (before the DEs arrived) if he'd placed some
other curse on him.
To simplify:
Voldemort kills Lily, activating the ancient love magic. Voldemort AKs
Harry. The AK bursts from Harry's head, leaving a jagged scar and
rebounding on Voldemort. Voldemort's body and soul are ripped
apart--whatever magic he had placed on his *body* didn't protect it
from a rebounded AK, but his Horcruxes (and possibly Lily's magic) did
prevent the AK from acting normally. Instead of falling dead without a
mark on him, LV explodes, along with the house. His soul remnant,
protected by the Horcruxes, becomes "less than a spirit," requiring
another body to house it. Not having a body or the ability to wield a
wand, LV can't create another Horcrux. The power or powers Harry
acquires from him relate to his magical abilities, not to his immortal
soul, which is the essence that gives a person life but passes beyond
the veil when that person dies (unless that person chooses to become a
ghost). It is not intended to be bound to the earth, as Voldemort's
is, or to be fragmented.
Entirely canonical, right? Or am I overlooking something?
Carol, who still hopes that the scar is shaped like a rune but that it
reflects Lily's protection, not anything related to a Horcrux
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