Invisibility cloak & MoM Security WAS:Snape informed Order?

[horridporrid03]

No: HPFGUIDX 140221

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > I doubt it was obvious to the Death Eaters (and therefore        
> > Voldemort) that the Order was guarding the Prophecy.  They were 
> > using Moody's invisibility cloak, after all.  I imagine there   
> > was no knowledge of Order guards until Snake!Voldemort used his 
> > super snaky powers to spot the sleeping Arthur.

> >>PJ:
> You could be right about this but I'm not convinced.  There are    
> just too many questions regarding this IMO.  For instance, Harry  
> is said to be a rather small wizard and James's cloak is already  
> too short to cover Harry fully - Malfoy spots him entering the    
> train compartment in HBP by the flash of white sneaker.  If these 
> cloaks can't properly hide a child, would full grown adult wizards 
> fare any better?

Betsy Hp:
The flash of sneaker occurs when Harry is scrambling up into the 
luggage racks, so I think that was more of a movement thing than a 
cloak size thing.  Especially since Harry has no problems with the 
cloak under normal usage throughout HBP.  The only time he runs into 
size problems is when he and Hermione and Ron are all trying to 
squeeze under the cloak.  Plus, why would Moody have a cloak that 
didn't fit him?

[Total aside, but I think undersized!Harry is more fanon than canon, 
IIRC.  Doesn't Hermione mention how tall he's gotten while getting 
on the train in HBP?  And I think Molly says something about Harry 
and Ron being of similar height.]

> >>PJ:
> Also, if we Muggles have motion sensors I should think that there 
> would be something more than guards at the MoM which wouldn't be  
> fooled by a Cloak (Sneakoscopes anyone? :)).

Betsy Hp:
There could well be (though security at the MoM seemed awfully lax 
to me).  However, I'm betting the Aurors in the Order could either 
tell the guards how to get around such security measures, or simply 
turn it off.  (With Fudge in charge, I'm betting security had some 
whopping big holes.)

> >>PJ:
> We already know that LV has spies in the MoM which could warn him 
> of the sudden interest in that section of the building. Else why  
> would LV send Nagini to the MoM if he had no suspicions that his  
> plan had gotten out?
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
I think that's what Lucius was doing when Harry and Arthur spotted 
him after Harry's trial.  He was checking out the security for the 
DoM, and it seemed that there was none.  (IIRC, there was actually 
an Order member at the door, under Moody's cloak.)

I'd always assumed Voldemort came via Nagini to try and get the 
prophecy himself.  And of course that went badly.  But I didn't give 
it much thought, so I could well be wrong on that. <g>

Betsy Hp, who secretly thinks we Muggles are just plain better at 
somethings (like security) than Wizards.  Their magic spoils them, 
IMO.