Sadistic!Snape?
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Sep 16 13:59:40 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 140274
Nora:
> Okay, we all know that Snape actually does *not* do as he says he's
> going to here, and takes them back to the castle. What else, then,
is he doing in this excerpt than enjoying Black and Lupin being
scared, and pleading? This is the point where Snape is in control
of the scene, after all. If we want to say "Oh, just a little
gloating at having caught the evildoers," that actually makes my
point.
Pippin:
I agree. Snape fan though I be, I think Snape is sadistic in the
sense JKR uses it -- someone who does not suppress the instinctive
urge to be gratified by pain. I think all the characters show this
instinct to some extent, even Dumbledore, who kicks Fake!Moody
over onto his back. Certainly Harry does -- he keeps trying to use
the cruciatus curse.
But I also think that Snape's instinct to be protective is damaged, so
that when he does protect someone it is not out of animal instinct
but actually, in JKR's eyes, nobler because it is a choice, though
Snape isn't always noble enough to make it.
Nora:
> I still have some real questions about this part of the book: my
main one is whether Snape is sincere when he says that the children
have been Confounded, because if not he's trying to shut up anyone
who could contradict his story, and that's not the action of a man
doing the right thing.
Pippin:
He's also protecting Harry, Ron and Hermione from punishment for
attacking him - an offense, together with being out of bounds after
dark, which would surely demand expulsion, at least for Ron who has
no celebrity to protect him.
Dumbledore says himself that without Pettigrew there is no hope of
convincing anyone to take the word of three thirteen year old wizards
and a werewolf who is known to be an old friend of Sirius. I don't
think three thirteen year old wizards and the word of an ex-Death
Eater who is known to be Dumbledore's man would have made any
difference either. Fudge didn't take Snape's word about Voldemort's
return when Snape had actual evidence. Why should he take it about
Pettigrew when Snape didn't have any proof at all?
The truth, as Dumbledore says, should be treated with great caution.
If Harry and Hermione had admitted to helping Black willingly and
been guarded more closely, who knows what would have happened?
Pippin
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