Sadistic!Snape? (was:Snape's canon opposite/ Proving loyalty...)

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 17 03:05:09 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 140323



Lealess:
> Snape has no time for babies who can't handle some minor hexing.  
> Perhaps they remind him of himself at a certain age.  Snape got 
> insulted for his looks.  He may have cried about it when he was 
> younger.  When he was older, he might have discounted it.


Alla:
I don't understand your point, sorry. Are you arguing that the fact 
that Snape was bullied as a student gave him a right to turn into a 
bully himself? I don't see how the fact that Snape may have been 
insulted for his looks gives him a right to insult Hermione. It is 
not like Hermione herself insulted Snape and he felt the need to get 
back at her, right?

Are you arguing that Snape tried to TEACH Hermione how to cope with 
emotional problems when he insulted her? 
if it is so, then I am certainly hoping that Hermione would NOT 
adopt Snape's way of dealing with emotional problems. That would be 
truly scary to me.


Are you saying that this is in Hogwarts' teacher job requirements - 
when student is injured and asks you for help - insult him 
instead? :-)

( OK, I realise that you are not arguing this part :-))



> Amiable Dorsai:
> > > ...insulting an orphan's father...
>  
> Betsy Hp:
> > Whenever Snape brought up James it was usually (IIRC) when Harry 
> > was doing something colossally stupid, like sneaking into 
> > Hogsmeade when there was a mass murderer out for his blood.  
> > Snape, with good reason (especially after reading some of 
> > Sirius's "advice"), was trying to turn Harry away from emulating 
> > his father.  Snape chose a piss-poor way of going about it, I 
> > grant.  But again, I see a reason for his behavior.  Enjoyment 
of 
> > Harry's suffering wasn't it, IMO.

Alla:

How does Snape try to stop Harry from emulating his father? By 
insulting him? Then he  has no understanding of  human psychology, 
period, IMO. Harry adored his father. Was Snape thinking that by 
insulting him Harry would think of James any less? I would think 
that if his most hated professor insults his beloved dead father, 
Harry would think of him as saint. Just me of course.

Oh, and here of course we have that little unpleasant fact that 
Snape is complicit in James death, so insulting him in front of the 
child whom Snape helped to become an orphan in retrospect is not 
just sadistic , it is to me despicable to the extreme AND makes me 
doubt that Snape has any remorse about delivering prophecy to 
Voldemort.

Again, IMO.

Lupinlore: 
> Once again, Snape's beliefs about Harry or James do not excuse his 
> behavior in any way, shape, form, or fashion.


Alla:

Agreed. Having said all of the above, I don't believe that Snape had 
any right to speak with Harry about James in the first place.



Just my opinion of course,

Alla.










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