[HPforGrownups] Voldie's Wand and other details

manawydan manawydan at ntlworld.com
Sat Sep 17 18:14:43 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 140359

Amiable Dorsai wrote:
>He waits around at the Longbottom's, ready for Voldemort to show up,
>until he gets an astonishing message from Hagrid:  James, Lily, and
>Tom Riddle are dead--Harry is still alive!  Oh, and by the way, a
>bunch of Muggles and probably some wizards, Aurors maybe, are starting
>to arrive.  What should he do?

>He sends another message to Hagrid, telling him not to let anyone else
>get their hands on Harry.  In fact, grab Harry and get lost while he
>(Dumbledore), figures this out.

I think that canon makes it clear that Dumbledore _hasn't_ spoken to Hagrid
between his rescuing Harry and the rendezvous at Privet Drive.

I also think that there is actually very little time available between
Voldemort's dispersal and all hell breaking loose for Harry to be rescued
and spirited away.

The battle between Voldemort and the Potters must have created a lot of
noise, especially once the house fell down. The local Muggles, observing the
collapse of a house that they'd never really noticed before, would have
phoned for the police/fire brigade/ambulance. How fast would they have
arrived? Depends how remote a village Godric's is, but they'd have been on
their way post haste. In that small space of time, Hagrid has to arrive,
rescue Harry, converse with Sirius, and fly off, not only before the Muggles
start "swarming around" but also before the Ministry arrive to clean up - if
he's seen, then not only will he be in trouble for using magic but there
could also be all sorts of questions about Harry's custody.

My own theory is that Dumbledore learns of the attack (though not of Peter's
betrayal) _before_ the event, though not quite long enough before to prevent
it.

>Hagrid finds a place to hide (Hogwarts?) for a day while Dumbledore
>checks into things, determines that Harry can be protected by his

Probably does go to Hogwarts. Hagrid is the one who told McGonagall to meet
Dumbledore at Privet Drive

>Once it gets dark, he sends a message to Hagrid:  Meet me at number
>four, Privet Drive, Little Whinging, Surrey.

Has to have been earlier than this, McGonagall is there quite early on and
keeps an eye on the place all day. Why? Possibly in case the surviving DEs
decide to thwart Dumbledore's plans by attacking the Dursleys?

I suspect that DD and the rest of the Order (together with the Aurors) are
been busy all day rounding up Voldemort's minions.

>There are a couple of problems:  How does Dumbledore, or anyone else
>who was not there, know what happened?  What clues McGonagall to go to
>Little Whinging?

One possible theory is that Hagrid wasn't alone. Someone else went with him
and stayed there to give the story to the Ministry and the media when they
arrived. They also reported back to Dumbledore. But Dumbledore and
McGonagall haven't spoken before they meet that evening, Hagrid is the one
who gave her the message.

>But on the whole, I don't think the "missing 24" is an issue.

No. Hogwarts is the safest place for Harry, just in case the DEs make
another attempt.

How did Hagrid come to be flying over Bristol? Maybe he got his route off
Moody!

hwyl

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