Sadistic Snape

[vmonte]

No: HPFGUIDX 140400

>Julie wrote:
And while we all know Harry is the hero of the book in the
traditional sense, any reader still has the right to find other
characters more interesting, even more heroic. There are
several posters here who don't name Harry as their favorite HP
character, who don't even like him much, which is within their
rights. While I can say I would find it hard to be in Harry's head
all the time if I didn't much like Harry, I'm more than willing to
accept that others might not find it problematic and would still
enjoy the books for the characters they do like better.

The "sort of substance" comment flew over my head, BTW,
because I really don't know what you meant.

>Betsy Hp:
Lupinlore, I'd take you more seriously if you'd *use the books*
instead of just stating opinion. That's why I snipped most of your
response. It lacked **** any sort of substance ***.

>vmonte:
In your quest to make Snape a hero you have begun to attack the true
hero of the books. Harry is not the bad guy. Anyone with any "sort of
substance" can tell you this is a fact.

vmonte again:
It's fine with me what people choose to believe about Harry and
Snape. It's the smug comments that are used against posters that
don't agree with DDM!Snape that I don't like. The simple fact is that
if you are going to attack someone for not using canon when stating
an idea, you should then use canon on a more regular basis yourself.

JKR is consistently portraying Snape as someone with sadistic
tendencies (it does not matter whether you have an affinity towards
that type of behavior yourself). If JKR really believes that it is
our choices that are important, then she is telling us something very
important about Snape who continuously chooses to behave
inappropriately.

If Dumbledore could find it in his heart to forgive Snape, who was a
DEATH EATER (and God knows what he did when he was one), then Snape
should also be as generous to his students. After all, they are
just children, and he is a grown man. I also want to add that Snape 
was never punished for his crimes (while innocent people like Sirius 
and Stan Shunpike have), and that Dumbledore treats Snape with 
respect, and expects others to treat him with respect as well. 

In light of this, how appropriate is it for Snape to assume anything 
about Harry, and before he even meets him? Let's just say that Snape 
wasn't lying when he told Narcissa and Bella that he wasn't sure 
whether Harry might turn out to be the next evil overlord. If 
Dumbledore is willing to give Harry a chance, who is Snape not to do 
the same; considering that he was forgiven for the real sin of being 
a DE, compared to Harry who has not committed any crime. 

And why is it OK to be so disrespectful to Harry for the actions of 
his father? (The fact that Snape is emotionally arrested is not 
Harry's problem.) If Snape had any "real" epiphany about the mistakes 
he made in his past he would never do what he is doing in the 
present. 

Dumbledore has made a huge mistake in trusting Snape, but it does not
mean that the children have not (in some way) learned from him.
There is a lot of truth to the saying: "Keep your friends close, but
your enemies closer." You can learn a lot about the enemy when you
have them up close and personal. In this sense I would say that
Dumbledore's mistake might turn out to be a gift in the long run.

Vivian

In the end something spectacular may happen to open Snape's eyes 
about his true self (I just don't think that moment has yet happened).