[HPforGrownups] Voldie's Wand and other details

manawydan manawydan at ntlworld.com
Mon Sep 19 18:07:19 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 140463

 Amiable Dorsai wrote:
>But if they had a few terse exchanges--say by Patronus messenger
>and/or hastily written notes passed by Fawkes--then the odd mixture of
>knowledge and ignorance shown by Dumbledore at Little Whinging is easy
>to understand.

Possible. Though I wonder whether Hagrid would have needed to say "I got him
out all right" if there'd been communication between the two of them. But
then Hagrid isn't the most concise of thinkers anyway...

>Yeah, that's why I figure Hagrid has to arrive by Apparition or
>Portkey.  Your point about custody is well-taken, but I think that's
>simply another reason why Dumbledore had Hagrid bug out ASAP.  It must
>have been too late, though.  The rumor that Harry had survived was out
>before lunchtime.

Before breakfast time, in fact. By the time Vernon leaves for work at 8.30,
the news has spread far enough that the WW is out on the streets. I can't
see things spreading that fast by word of mouth, it must have been on the
Wireless and in the Prophet (or one of them at least)

>This idea has a lot to recommend it, particularly if all Dumbledore
>knows is that there is to be an attack on one or both of the two
>possible subjects of the prophecy.  He might only have had time to try
>to defend one of them, so he flipped a coin and chose the wrong one,
>or, assuming he didn't know where the Potters were hidden, he went to
>the Longbottoms because he did know where they were hiding--perhaps he
>was their Secret Keeper.

I lean towards an alternative - if DD's spy finds out that there's going to
be an attack, I can't see them withholding the location. Possibly the
Longbottoms also went to Godric's that night, as Hagrid's backup - Hagrid
_might_, after all, have been arriving in the middle of a nest of Death
Eaters if Voldemort had brought his entire posse with him. The theory has
the advantage of explaining who reported back to Dumbledore and also who
gave the story to the media, and even the reason why the surviving DEs later
went after the Longbottoms.

>McGonagall's presence at Privet Dive is troubling. Dumbledore
>expresses surprise at it, and he is not forthcoming with her about his
>real reason--the Blood Protection--for leaving Harry with the Dursleys.

quote
"Hagrid's late. I suppose it was he who told you I'd be here, by the way?"
"Yes", said Professor McGonagall
unquote

hwyl

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