St. Severus of Antioch and Professor Severus Snape
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 20 05:44:20 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 140506
Valky <snips a fascinating introduction to St Severus of Antioch>:
Hey I think this is great, Trouble!
Trouble_h2o:
>
> Yet those who
> knew him and had read his Christologies knew that in fact he was
> truely professing the Orthodox faith.
Valky:
That really looks like Dumbledores claim to truting Snape, doesn't it :D
Trouble_h2o:
> It came to pass that the
> emperior had an arguement about the faith and wanted St. Severus to
> publicly agree to the heresy that he backed.The emperor's wife
> Theodora begged and pleaed with Severus to leave he refused at first
> then after several of the bishops alos begged him to leave St.
> Severus agreed.
Valky:
hmm shades of the Unbreakable Vow here I think.
Trouble_h2o:
> When he left he <snip> escaped the from the soldiers unseen even
though they were close at hand.
Valky:
Woot! So much like the Flight of the Prince O_o are you sure this is
the real story of St Severus.
Trouble_h2o:
> St. Severus escaped to Alexadria and hid by traveling in
> disguise from on monastery to another.
Valky:
Well it certainly seems very much like Severus Snape has some roots in
the real life story of the Saint, hmm fascinating :D
If this is so, then we should be looking for a disguised SS on the odd
occasion in Book seven then. It makes sense to me that he'd go in
disguise after helping DD off the planet (for whatever reasons).
Trouble_h2o:
> While in hiding an angel
> revealed his true idenity to a monestary at Divine Liturgy. During
> this time many miricles are atributed to him and he instructed his
> bishops and parishes in the orthodox faith through many letters.
Valky:
Big WOOT! I Love it! I was working on a theory of Snape sending his
Patronus to the Trio with anonymous messages. This story certainly
goes there doesn't it!
Trouble_h2o:
> The orthodox considier him a Doctor of Faith. In fact he has 3
> different day of veneration: His arrvial in Alexaderia, Oct 11,
> Entombing of his body 12/10 and his departure Feb 8.
Valky:
Okay, maybe I am getting carried away wuth the metaphor. But isn't
that around about one year After DD's death? Gotta love how that
coincides with the Herculean Labour that I pegged for Snape.. LOL I am
loving this stuff Thanks Trouble, for taking the trouble!
> Trouble_h2o:
> What stuck me was that the similiarities:
> 1. Both very intelligent and book people
> 2. Both in the middle of two opposing sides and very few people
> realy "knowing" their allegence.
> 3. Both submitting to some one elses battle plan against evil.
> St. Severus to Queen Theodora, Professor Severus to Dumbledore
> 4. Both ended up in exile.
Valky:
I agree with all of those points, the similarity is uncanny!
Oh and the two heresys that St Severus were accused of were both
concerning the dual nature of Christ, for those who would rather not
look it up like I did. :D
On the one side St Sevvie was accused of claiming that Christ had a
dual nature of humanity and divinity that didn't comply with the
orthodox view (he apparently has since been proven to have been
actually attacking that particular heresy) and the other one was the
heresy of being opposed to the orthodox veiw of the dual nature of the
Christ (this one is apparently more appropriate to him, but
essentially not true either, according to the source I read who says
he only failed to expound the orthodox view within the framework of
his teaching). well in any case the reason I have bothered to expound
on that issue is because of the way it relates to the way Harry and
Voldemort are gradually starting to seem more like a duality than two
different people. then again maybe I shouldn't go there. I beg the
pardon of Orthodox Christians I may have offended by stepping into
that bound.
> Trouble_h2o:
> Will Professor Snapes true idenity be revealed while in hiding?
Valky:
I think his true alignment will. His identity, I think, might be
partially hidden right up until after his death. Or do I have that the
wrong way around. :P Oh well great post Trouble! Really good post, thanks!
Valky
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