Lagdogs?? (wasRe: re:Ages/)

nkafkafi nkafkafi at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 20 19:37:22 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 140540

> Potioncat:
> I think we have another age problem like we did with the older
> Weasley 
> kids. Must be something about that year group! (Tonks is in that 
age 
> range.)
> 

Neri:
I'm contemplating a new theory, something about an experimental time 
turner that was used at Hogwarts during those years. An accidental 
time slip happened and several years were spent in a time loop. These 
were the years of Charlie's winning streak and the years that Tonks 
had lost <g>.  

> Potioncat:
> We have several sets of facts.
> 1) Bella is the oldest of the sisters
> 2) Sirius hadn't seen Bella since he was Harry's age
> 3) Snape was part of a gang at Hogwarts that included Bella
> 4) Tonks is the middle sister's daughter; and must be about 7 years 
> older than Harry. (based, IIRC on the last auror class being 4 
years 
> prior to career advice...I'm fuzzy on this one.)(Oh, heck, like I'm 
> clear on the rest????)
> 

Neri:
You are very nearly correct. Auror training is actually only 3 years, 
but in the beginning of OotP Tonks says to Harry that she qualified 
as an Auror "a year ago", so it's been at least 4 years since she had 
left Hogwarts, and she must be at least 22. Harry is 15 at the time 
so she's at least 7 years older than him.

> Potioncat:
> So with this information: Who had soup for dinner and who lives in 
a  
> green house?
> 

Neri:
Search me. But I can tell you what is Dumbledore's favorite jam 
flavor.

> Potioncat:
> Actually, does't that meant that Andromeda would have to be at least
> 4 
> years older than the Marauders? And Bella at least 5 years older.
> That 
> would allow only 2 years for Bella and Snape to have in common.
> 

Neri:
Another possibility that was proposed to me (can't remember by whom) 
is that Bella and Andromeda are twins. Bella is still the oldest but 
they're in the same year. 

Bella *can* be more than 3 years older than Sirius. When he says he 
saw her last when he was 15, it's possible that he means he saw her 
last at the Black house, after she had already left Hogwarts. He was 
15 and she could be 19 or even 20. It seems that she's not as old as 
Lucius (who is 6 years older than the Marauders) because Sirius 
mentioned her in the gang, but didn't mention Lucius. So I'd estimate 
she's 3-5 years older than the Marauders. Suppose she's 5 years older 
and Andromeda is her twin. Since we concluded above that Tonks is 7 
years older than Harry, it would mean that Andromeda had Tonks when 
she was 2 years younger than Lily was when she had Harry. Seems 
possible.


> Potioncat:
> On the other hand, the "gang" as Sirius remembers it, could have 
> spanned several years. I mean, in a way, Draco was part of a gang
> that 
> included Montagu and Flint. Still, it's darn hard to imagine a 
> first/second year kid hanging out with sixth/seventh years.
> 
> Unless of course the Slytherins promoted the habit of younger 
> kids "waiting on" the older ones and with a Head of House like 
> Slughorn, it might have been common. This of course will add fuel 
to 
> the "lapdog" theories. Particularly since Narcissa calls Severus an
> old 
> friend of Lucius's. 
> 
> What do you  think?

Neri:
There's definitely something going on between Lucius and Snape. 
Remember in the end of GoF Snape made "a sudden movement" when Harry 
told Fudge that Lucius was in the DEs circle. We still need to find 
out what was that about. 

Also, did Snape know during VW1 that Lucius and his gang are DEs? If 
so, why didn't he turn them in to the Ministry after Voldemort's 
defeat at GH? In the case of Bella and Rodolpho that would have 
prevented the attack on the Longbottoms.

Neri








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