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pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Sep 21 15:15:59 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 140596
> Pippin wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/140016 :
>
> << Of course Sirius would have been briefed on [Snape 'informed
Voldie
> that Sirius had returned to England? And Voldemort gave Snape
> permission to kill Sirius, if he could get away with it'], which
> throws an interesting light on the handshake at the end of GoF, and
> the almost duel in OOP. >>
Rita:
> Snape and Voldemort could not have already discussed Sirius's return
> to Britain when S and S shook hands at the end of GoF, because
wasn't
> that scene the first that Snape knew of Sirius's return?
Pippin:
I meant that Snape could have informed Voldemort that Sirius had
returned to England when he, Snape, returned to Voldemort at the end
of GoF, ie just after he had seen Sirius. Dumbledore must certainly
have already discussed with Snape which information he was to reveal
to Voldemort. Snape could have known already that Sirius had returned
and yet express surprise, real or feigned, at seeing him turn up at
Harry's bedside.
>
> OCCLUMENCY
> Carol wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/140314 :
>
> << If Harry had been willing and able to learn [Occlumency] (and
> hadn't looked in the Pensieve), he could have blocked the fake
vision of Sirius and Sirius would not have died. >>
Rita:
> *sigh* Here we go again. Harry was not receiving LV's thoughts by
> anything like normal Legilimency, so why would Occlumency, which
> blocks normal Legilimency, block Harry's reception of LV's thoughts?
Pippin:
Dumbledore tells Harry that the reason that he cannot sense
Voldemort's thoughts and his scar is not troubling him in HBP
is that Voldemort is employing occlumency. That would suggest that if
Harry had been able to learn occlumency he also could have used it
to block the link.
Pippin
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