Who is hidden? Was Re: Draco and Narcissa in hiding

[M.Clifford]

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> Saraquel:
> I 
> think that the wizard in hiding is Caradoc Dearborn - yes my little 
> pet obsession :-)  He is the one whom Moody described from the photo 
> (OotP party) as disappearing without a trace.  One possibility for 
> him is that he may have been the extra person at GH who told DD what 
> happened.  IMO, whoever was at GH told DD what happened, otherwise 
> how would he know that Lily sacrificed herself and her love 
> protected Harry. The problem being of course, if it was somebody on 
> the side of good, why didn't they help Lily out and snuff it in the 
> process, if it was somebody on Voldemort's side, what the hell were 
> they doing telling DD.  The only person who could fulfil that 
> argument is Snape. But I don't think Snape was at GH. (I know I have 
> a cast iron reason for thinking that, but it seems to have just 
> disappered down the black hole of my memory at the moment :-))
> 
> Anyway, further supporting evidence (though of course nowhere near 
> conclusive) is that Caradoc is a Welsh name (correct me if I'm 
> wrong), so he could well have been in the area.  Also, there is a 
> very interesting myth about Caradoc being bitten by a snake and 
> spending 12 years in hiding - here's the link -  actually I can't 
> find the original source I used, but here is a similar one 
> http://tentacle.net/~dawnhawk/witchcraft/cmyth4.html 
> 


Valky:
Woot! nice find Saraquel. Lately I've been getting myself tangled in
mythology with parallels to Harry's Horcrux quest. The number is
increasing ever so rapidly, but it wouldn't surprise me if JKR manages
to get a lend out of all of them in her book seven story, there's no
question of her ability to do that, in my mind. So in that case I have
been finding myself gleefully collecting the myths that parallel each
other as well and sticking them side by side in a Horcrux myth tree.

Now the joining of other sentient things with serpentine things has
formed the basis of my search for Horcrux-like myths. So, it's
elementary, my initial thoughts about Caradoc were - "Horcrux bearer!". 

This is where it gets complex and interesting: (my favourite part
which I know will incite replies that I am overcomplicating it etc..
never mind telling me so unless you're congratulating me on fulfilling
my purpose to do just that <g> and if you don't enjoy convoluted
excessive complexity in your sleuthing you might want to jump ship now
<bg>)

Caradoc and Guinier were associated in other mythology with a Boars
head. The Boar itself I have similarly associated through Greek
Mythology with the Centaur Chiron (Chiron means Hand while Caradoc's
second name briefbras means short arm) and so far I have been
tentatively placing the Hufflepuff Chalice under the heading of this
semigroup of myths, and the time of this part of the journey seems to
have association with winter. 

There is a following vague association with St Mungos falling under
this heading, but I am not sure how to fit St Mungos and Centurs
together lol. Unless there really is a cure for the Longbottoms which
would be a lovely thing.

I hope some of these notes will help Saraquel in her pet project of
Caradoc Dearborn :D Let me know if you find anything addable Saraquel!

My personal favourite, and I think I have it fairly well set out, is,
I think, leading to the Ravenclaw object. I have mentioned it before,
there are some possibilities in evidence that the myth of Heracles
defeat of the Hydra will be echoed in part of his Horcrux journey.

This one is my favourite because I am associating the many serpentine
Hydra heads with a Horcrux that is still locked in its full Voldemort
protection, which means there is lots to draw upon from the cave in
HBP. The Hydra has One immortal head, which Heracles destroys last,
meshing quite nicely with the concept of a Horcrux in the centre of a
bunch of dark magic protections. The Hydra itself is associated with a
Raven and a Cup, I am tending towards thinking that the trio will
think they are on the trail of the cup here, but probably find the
Ravenclaw object instead, Ravens are notorious trickster animals in
many mythologies, and shapechanging is often a specialty in the myths. 
The trickster mythology also places this object near to the legendary
HP tricksters Gred and Forge which would be Diagon alley, in turn DA
seems to be a place where the Ravenclaw Horcrux might be located.. So
it all meshes well. 

HBP gives us canon that Harry feels a tingling sensation in the cave,
he wonders if he is sensing the magic of Voldemort that DD is telling
him about. If we go back to PS/SS we see Harry experience a similar
feeling when he enters Ollivanders, as though the dust itself was
tingling with some secret magic.. A further analysis of the Tarot
associations with the four Houses of Hogwarts thus:

Founders Houses:
Slytherin - Water - Cup
Hufflepuff - Earth - Pentacle
Gryffindor - Fire - Wand
Ravenclaw - Air - Sword

Known Objects:
Slytherin - Earth - Pentacle - Ring/Locket
Hufflepuff - Water - Cup - Chalice
Gryffindor - Air - Sword - Sword

This pattern of the Founders objects being associated with the
complementary element of their house places a _Wand_ firmly in the
empty space left by the Ravenclaw object. Which again points us to
Ollivanders mysteriously abandoned shop. Very neat very neat.. but not
all my own work.

Heres where I say ciaou, just realising it might be profitable to look
up mythological associations with Ollie and diagonals etc.. 

Valky
Everquesting for Horcruxes.. :D