Snape's patronus in Book 7
strina_brulyo
allilova at davidson.edu
Thu Sep 29 02:00:27 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 140956
"Jen Reese" wrote:
> Snape's new form would have to
> reflect his alliance with Dumbledore to be of any real use for
> proving himself to the Order. Some favor him casting a phoenix,
but
> I'm thinking a lemon drop or cockraoch cluster myself, lol. Does
it
> have to be an animal? If so, I guess the phoenix even though
that's a little pat.
Alina:
I don't think it could be a phoenix because Rowling has confirmed
that the phoenix is Dumbledore's patronus. Of course it's not
impossible that DDM!Snape's patronus took this new form after his
mentor's death, but that would be somewhat predictable and trivial.
> Lupinlore:
> > Also, when asked about Snape's patronus before HBP JKR said she
> > wouldn't reveal it because it would give too much away. That
> > implies something about Snape's patronus BEFORE the events on
the tower <snip>
> Jen: You are saying JKR didn't tell us Snape's patronus before HBP
> because it would give away his evil nature prior to his big reveal
> on the tower? She could also be saving the surprise that despite
> what we see on the tower, Snape is not evil and we could deduce
that from his patronus. <snip>
Alina:
There was an old thread in this forum about Snape's patronus being a
unicorn. A very nice theory. If you'll let me bring forward some of
the arguments again:
* a unicorn's horn (unicorns are also called alicorns) neutralizes
poison. The legend goes that when the Snake, or whatever form Evil
takes, poisoned the river, all the thirsty animals waited for the
unicorn to show up, dip its horn in the river and separate the good
water from the murky and unclean... and Snape is not only good at
antidotes but has superb healing abilities in general.
* the unicorn is pure at heart but can be very fierce and
protective...and captured or tamed only by a maiden (Lily?)
* it is also thought to symbolize renouncement of earthly
pleasures... fits perfectly a person who lives in a "Muggle
dunghill," has no lavish furniture whatsoever, always dresses the
same, and has no great inclination to spend too much money on stupid
things such as shampoo:)
* a pure white unicorn would stand in a stark contrast to Snape's
black appearance, which would reinforce the message "don't judge a
book by its cover"
* haha -- that carries little weight, but just a thought -- Snape's
astrological sign is a Capricorn... kind of close...
* and yes, the Lion and the Unicorn fought for the crown... the Lion
and the Unicorn are great enemies because they have different
dispositions and approaches; one is an extrovert, and the other a
solitary introvert. However, they do not represent Good and Evil;
rather, they are complementary, and if they work together for a
common cause, no other beast can withstand them. They are seen in an
actual union in the British coat-of-arms...the Lion representing
England and the Unicorn Scotland (and JKR is connected to both
England and Scotland). Since we associate lions with Gryffindor -
and therefore with James and Harry (who also happens to be a Leo) -
that fits pretty well.
* honestly, it's surprising that we haven't seen the unicorn, that
powerful magical creature, "IN ACTION" anywhere in the books.
Wherever it has appeared so far, it's been always quite passive
(dead or petted by Lavender and Parvati). Totally unlike the
phoenix, for example... so Book 7 would be the time - at least
that's how I feel.
And now, a unicorn patronus would so totally satisfy Lily/Snape
shippers!!! The unicorn would actually BE Lily, in a way:
* both the lily/fleur-de-lys and the unicorn are very, very eloquent
traditional symbols of purity and innocence. I even saw a heraldic
image of a unicorn feeding upon a fleur-de-lys. Both are dazzlingly
white, shiny, and pure things...
* the unicorn is related to the feminine
* (I read this in a Mugglenet Editorial) - in Philosopher's Stone,
Hagrid says that whoever slays a unicorn is doomed to live a half-
life, a cursed life...but we know that Voldemort was already leading
that same kind of existence after the killing curse bounced back to
him, repelled by the purity of a mother's love
* James and Lily could also fit in the "Lion and Unicorn" image
since Lily at first found James to be no more dateable than the
Giant Squib, but they ended up getting married and defying LV
together.
If Snape's patronus truly is a unicorn, that wouldn't be so hugely
revealing to the members of the Order, and they would have no way of
knowing the Lily connection unless: a) Lily had the same patronus,
and b) they knew what hers was. However, because of the symbology
involved, the unicorn would give away a lot to the reader, hence
Rowling's refusal to disclose it.
I can see a stag and a unicorn from HP's and SS's wands uniting (as
their prototypes did when they were alive) to drive away dementors
or some other evil force in Book 7.
-Alina
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