Motivations for Joining DEs (Was: Bullying)

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 30 13:27:21 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 140966

Nora wrote: 
> Extrapolation.  All of the Unforgivables destroy a person's 
> subjectivity, for example.  Imperio destroys the free will.  
Crucio 
> reduces a person out of consciousness into an animal state, as 
pain 
> also destroys the mind.  And AK is the ultimate 
disenfranchisement.  Or 
> take the graveyard ritual, wherein there are body parts used, and 
the 
> *forcible* taking of things needed for it from others.

a_svirn:
On the whole I would agree, but the trouble is we don't know whether 
the Unforgivables are the "Dark Arts" or not. Rowling never says it 
in the books.  And although I agree with you about their power to 
destroy a "person's subjectivity", I think there is another one, 
even more destructive for personhood: the Obliviate. And it is not 
considered "dark" or "unforgivable". 
> 
> I agree that we have a definite lack of consensus, but I'm also 
fairly 
> convinced that Rowling has a good idea of 'what is dark' and what 
> isn't.  Dumbledore does, methinks.  

Yes, and it's a great pity they never bothered to make their 
knowledge public. 

a_svirn







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