Why must JKR torture us so? Snape of course was:Bullying WAS: Re: Prodigal Sons
horridporrid03
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Fri Sep 30 21:55:12 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 140981
> >>PJ:
> <snip>
> I can't speak for anyone else of course but sometimes I'm not at
> all sure we're all reading about the same characters. :-)
> Everything I've ever read of Snape, both in the books and the
> interviews the author gives, show him to be a bad guy through and
> through. So, if JKR *says* he's bad and *writes* him as bad,
> where does the idea of "good Snape" come from?
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
>From JKR of course, that clever woman. <g> It all goes back to
PS/SS, I think. Snape gets one of the best introductary scenes of
all the books; good or bad, the reader is interested. Throughout
PS/SS he seems so obviously bad: trying to kill Harry, cheating at
quidditch, threatening poor Professor Quirrell, forcing students to
write essays, etc. But then the ending comes and changes
everything. Snape wasn't trying to kill Harry, he was saving
Harry's life. Snape wasn't trying to cheat a quidditch win for
Slytherin, he endured his colleagues censure to once again protect
Harry. And he wasn't picking on a poor unstable professor, he was
challenging a dark wizard. (Opinions still vary on the relative
sadism of essay assignments. <eg>)
So the question seems answered: the cool guy with all the presense
is good. Light the candles and pour some champagne, we've got an
interesting adult character. Or do we? Because our hero still
doesn't like the man. Heads are butted, words are sneered,
detentions are given, and yes, essays are still assigned. And yet,
Snape isn't racing off to help the newly risen "Heir of Slytherin",
he seems upset when young Ginny is grabbed. Snape fails to deliver
Harry into the murdering Sirius's hands. He even chastises Harry for
skipping merrily off to Hogsmeade while being hunted by said
murderer, positively parental behavior there.
JKR cunningly continues on in a similar manner throughout the
books. Snape fails to undermine Harry when he has a chance, is
never actually *seen* to be eating kittens, and generally seems to
be working *against* the villain du jour. In fact, Snape is
sometimes present and actually helping when the day is saved. He
doesn't like Harry's father though, who is supposed to be the next
big thing since King Arthur, so that's kind of confusing.
> >>PJ:
> For me the frustration comes into play when I read that from just
> one snippet of memory it's decided that James MUST have bullied
> Snape without any provocation through out 7 years of school.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
Ah, but see, it provides an explination for the strange behavior in
PoA. How could Snape *not* like cuddly little Lupin? And how dare
he seem to hold a certain distaste for the noble St. James. He
*must* be evil! But then, from the pensieve memory we learn, the
boys have a "history". Doesn't matter, really, who bullied who, in
the end. It's a Hatfields vs. McCoys situation. No one remembers
who threw the first punch, the point is that a punch was thrown.
(Though, again, JKR is being clever in putting Snape in the victim
role in this particular scene. She deliberately provokes sympathy
for the dark guy and deliberately parallels the light guy with
muggle torturing Death Eaters. JKR likes to shake
up 'straightforward' readings it seems. Or at the very least mess
with our heads. <g>)
> >>PJ:
> Regardless, from that one snippet James is tried and convicted of
> being the biggest bully on the playground while despite of all the
> solid canon available on how bad Snape is, people turn themselves
> inside out to make excuses for him and paint him as a "good guy".
> It's a mystery...
Betsy Hp:
Who said it had to be either or? Frankly, I was glad to see "St.
James" die a swift death. Talk about a boring character. James,
the spoiled rich kid who had some growing up to do before he could
win the fair maiden's hand is *much* more interesting, IMO. Just as
Snape the snarky teacher with issues, who nevertheless has a
larger "lives saved to date" list then any other character (IIRC),
is a heck more interesting than "St. Snape" or "Demon Snape". It's
three dimensions and it's beautiful. <g>
Betsy Hp
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