Harry's bias again, answering several posts

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 30 22:36:49 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 140982

> Ceridwen:
<HUGE>
Snape also doesn't seem to know that a) Harry just 
> got his books recently, in fact, just found out he was a wizard, 
> recently and b) had no support at home for his lessons, and an 11 
year 
> old child, unless that child is Hermione, wouldn't necessarily want 
to 
> start reading his school books early.  Maybe wizarding parents 
> encourage such a thing, I don't know.  But he did overlook that 
Harry 
> was raised Muggle.

Alla:

Do you think that Snape unwillingly overlooks the fact that Harry was 
raised a  muggle? Because it is strange to me that he would not know, 
since whole WW knows that Harry is ... well, not being raised in WW.

I think Snape did it on purpose, knowing whole well  that Harry has 
no clue about magic yet and have not had  ever any exposion to amgic 
after his parents' murder. Just me of course.



Ceridwen:
<SNIP>
> So, Snape, McGonagall, and all the rest, can only see Harry from 
the 
> outside.  We have privileged information.  It's hard, at least for 
me, 
> to keep track of what *everyone* knows, and what only Harry knows.  
> That's why I'm noticing more and more, that we get a very limited 
> view.

Alla:

Well, actually I always realised that we have limited POV,  and 
Snape's actions are VERY often defended based on the fact that we 
only see what Harry sees. It is a fair argument, Harry IS wrong 
sometimes, I am not disputing that. ( I believe he is also right 
quite often of course :-))

But at the same time I also think that the importance of "Harry being 
wrong" argument is often exagerated, because some actions of Snape, 
or I would say many actions of Snape are objective, IMO and I cannot 
evaluate  them differently whether Harry or anybody else sees them.

Again, going back to the first scene, I find Lebeto's example to be 
perfect - Snape punishes Harry for the fact that he did not help 
Neville. Erm... how exactly would it look differently if anybody else 
would tell us "objective description " of this action?

I mean, sure Draco and Co woul add different adverbs or objectives to 
it - " how great that Snape did punish that Potter or something like 
that", but suppose we are asking "neutral" narrator to tell us about 
this event. Do you think such narrator would be able to put positive 
spin on Snape's actions here?

I think it would look to anybody as absolutely unwarranted bullying 
or nastiness, if you like this word better. :-)

It looks even worse in retrospect, IMO, when we see Snape punishing 
Hermione for actually HELPING Neville.

Poor Gryffs, they are d*mned if  they do something and d*mned if they 
don't do  the same thing on Snape lessons.


JMO of course,

Alla










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