Snape less comic?

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sat Apr 1 02:14:35 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 150342

Nora:
> I'd still love an answer to my general contention that Snape has 
> actually become *less* comic in many ways as the series has 
> progressed.  At least that's my impression; the further we go along 
> and see how deep his grudges go, the less they seem to inhabit the 
> world of comedy (the nasty teacher figure) and the more they become 
> pathological, more than a little bit scary.  Neidisch, with a 
> surprisingly deep level of obsession on certain topics.  After all, 
> the progression has been to steadily darken Snape's character, 
> revealing more and more negative things (along with pulling in some 
> positive highlights and other complexities).

Pippin:

You're going to have to take that up with someone who sees
that progression because I don't see it at all, except in Harry's
biased interpretation. Snape's wrath at Sirius and Lupin peaks
in the Shrieking Shack and diminishes ever after -- the only
person who goes capslock in the confrontation at Grimmauld
Place is Harry. 

He sees Snape and Sirius about to kill each  other; I see two 
powerful warriors, both frustrated at being
forced to act behind the scenes, taking out their frustrations
on each other and being as sheepish as schoolboys when
they are caught.


Snape's grudges  are seen to  have some real foundation and
I expect that to continue.   They are deep and scary,
but that is not necessarily his fault. Remember, I see him as the
unrecognized victim of an attempted murder that has to be 
brought to light in order for the fabric of society to be mended.
 A job for a hero, probably named Harry.

Nora:
> (Structurally in comedy, it tends to be the hero who removes the 
> senex/mentor from the scene in order to surpass him and reintegrate 
> the fabric of society in time for the wedding scene at the end. 

Pippin:
Well, that would fit right in with Dumbledore having been poisoned
by Harry, wouldn't it? 

Nora:
> And to grant the fundamental dignity of another human being is not 
> necessarily to approve of all of what they do: if you take some 
> models, there is a responsibility to help someone change and realize 
> the error of their ways.

Pippin:
DDM!Snape is not a child or a criminal. He has the right to decide
for himself whether he wants to change or not.

Pippin







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