Snape less comic?

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 150359

> Pippin:
> > > DDM!Snape is not a child or a criminal. He has the right to 
decide
> > > for himself whether he wants to change or not.
> 
> Nora: 
> > And then society and every individual person has the right to 
decide, 
> > if he has decided not to change, whether he is going to be an 
> > accepted member, someone who you would want to associate with, 
or 
> > shunned as someone unwilling to work within the social contract.
> > 
> > It cuts both ways.
> 
> Pippin:
> There we differ.  Let him have due process and be sent to Azkaban
> if he has broken wizarding law. But if he cannot proved guilty, no
> individual has the right to place him outside the social contract. 
> No one has to like him, but they can't treat him as a pariah 
either.


Alla:

Are you saying, Pippin that if Snape loyalties will turn out to 
belong to the Light, but he will remain his nasty, horrible self, 
other individuals should be forced to deal with him? Just asking to 
clarify, because when I summarise other's arguments I do summarise 
incorrectly sometimes.

I definitely agree with Nora ( surprise :)) - if it is Snape right 
not to change, then IMO it is everybody's right to refuse to deal 
with him, period.

It is everybody's individual choice, isn't it?

For example - to take loose RL parallel. Say if I was the principal 
in the school and I had the misfortune to hire the teacher like 
Snape ( again, not the strict teacher, but the one who would be 
taking personal vendettas against my students, because he did not 
like such students' parents). Are you saying that it is not my right 
to fire Snape ASAP? (If allowed by law of course :))

To go back to books - are you saying that it is not Harry's right at 
the end of the books for example if he and Snape both survive to 
tell Snape that he never ever wants to see him again?

I happen to love the saying ( paraphrase) that one individual's 
liberty to do and say things ends where such right infirnges upon 
liberty of another person ( literally and metaphorically)

IMO, if Snape survives (DD!M Snape) and wants to stay in the 
Society, he has to change, in ACTIONS if not in his thoughts, but if 
he makes a choice not to, well, I think others are perfectly free to 
treat him as a pariah.

Alla.