Words have consequences

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 150415

> > >>Alla:
> > <snip> 
> > But my question to everybody (Betcy, and whoever else 
considers     
> > Draco a victim in this situation).
> > What in your mind should have been appropriate reaction to 
what     
> > Draco did?
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> You mean, what Draco *said*.  He didn't actually *do* anything.  
So 
> Harry could have argued back, though that would probably have been 
a 
> waste of time.  And I don't think Harry (or Ron or Hermione) were 
in a 
> state of mind to allow them to channel Dumbledore.

Alla:

Yes, he DID do something IMO. He left his compartment, took his 
goons with him and came into Gryffs compartment and started talking. 
IMO he acted. So, I meant what I said.

Betcy: 
> Forcing Draco out of their compartment would have been one 
option.  
> Threatening him if he refused to leave was another.

Alla:

Okay, so you would allow Gryffindors to use SOME kind of physical 
force against Draco? Because "forcing" means forcing physically, no, 
since Draco did not leave when Harry told him to get out.

Don't you see how subjective it is? Not only Gryffs are in no shape 
to listen to Draco threats, they cannot make Draco leave by words, 
because he does not erm... leaves.

Let me just say again. I don't consider what Gryffs did to be some 
sort of justice against Draco. I just consider it a reaction. Not a  
perfect reaction maybe, but perfectly justifiable. Moreover, after 
rereading the scene, I don't see that Gryffs had much choice to 
react differently, unless of course they wanted to subject 
themselves to continue listening to Draco's monstrocities.

And no, I don't think that Harry was in any shape or form to argue 
with Draco. Harry is clearly getting upset the moment Draco shows up 
and starts talking ( I brought  the quote upthread).

So, thank you for your answer, I am just still not quite clear as to 
how "forcing Draco out" helps Gryffindors to keep high moral ground, 
but hexing him ( independently from each other if I may ) does not.

Or do you mean something different than "physically forcing" him out?

Alla