Voldemort to Vapormort - How Did They Know?

[puduhepa98 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 150431

Len.  
<snip>

>The whole subject is fraught with contradictions.
>If DD knew  about the secret keeper switch, and
>Peter's betrayal, then why was Sirius  still sent to
>Azkaban?

>If he didn't, and still thought Sirius  was the secret
>keeper, why are he and Hagrid bantering about  Sirius'
>motorcycle in SS?


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>For that matter,  how does anybody know that LV is
>vanquished?  We're never told that  they found his 
>old body in GH.  But that may have been the  reason
>they knew.

Nikkalmati:
 
When the SK switch was made, PP told SS and possibly DD the location of the  
Potters.  It has been suggested (Carol?) that when DD realized he knew or  
recalled the location or in some other way discovered the SK no longer was  
working he knew something was wrong.  He sent Hagrid to investigate.   Hagrid could 
be sent by DD because the SK no longer worked.  Hagrid met SB  there, who 
either knew the SK was gone in the same way DD did or he was just  visiting by 
chance.  Hagrid took Harry out of the wreckage and contacted DD  (was there a 
fireplace nearby? or could they use mirrors?).  SB said "here  take my bike" and 
ran off to find PP without telling Hagrid what he was  doing.  After he met 
PP and the Muggles were killed and the street blown  up, SB was arrested and 
sent to Azkaban without trial.  Hagrid brought  Harry to Privit Drive.  There 
may be other contacts and incidents in the  meantime.  I guess the MOM would 
have been contacted at some point and the  word got out to the WW.  I assume 
there were 3 bodies there and DD had to  explain what had happened to Harry and 
get tacit approval.  I don't know if  anyone else was there.
 
BTW I am not clear how LV was supposed to "give" Lily to Snape. She does  not 
appear to be the type to be "given" and I can't see SS keeping her tied up  
in the dungeon of Hogwarts or Imperiusing her to stay in his house somewhere.  
Way too risky for a spy.
 
Nikkalmati