LV's wand / Re: Voldemort to Vapormort - How Did They Know?

[gelite67]

No: HPFGUIDX 150480

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "latha279" <brahadambal at ...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> > Angie again:
> > <SNIP> 
> > Second, when the PI occured in GOF, neither Harry nor 
VM "appeared."  
> > So if what we saw in GOF (minus Bertha, FRank and Cedric, of 
course) 
> > is what DD would have seen had he done the PI, that wouldn't have 
> > told him about VM losing his powers or trying to kill Harry, 
would it?
> > (How would DD have done it? Gotten the brother wand from 
Olivander?)
> > <SNIP>
> 
> Brady here:
> 
> Exactly what has been bothering me for sometime now. Why is it that 
the 
> Priori Incantatem didn't show either HP or LV? It should have, 
because 
> it showed even the silver hand that LV conjured for PP. Does that 
mean 
> that whoever was present at GH that night with LV performed the AK 
> instead of LV himself? If so, why? HP was to be marked by "the Dark 
> Lord" himself as his equal. Does that mean that this third person 
> performed the AK on LV from behind and then performed a small spell 
to 
> tranfer some Slytherin powers into HP (this would still explain the 
> green light) and leave a scar behind to make both LV and HP believe 
in 
> the prophesy? Just to lead the whole wizarding world on a real wild-
> goose chase?
> 
> If this does lead to speculation, I put my bet on DD and / or 
Severus 
> Snape to have done this. And all this was done to mislead LV to 
hunt an 
> innocent boy while they can do the destroy-horcruxes operation in 
> relative peace.
> 
> Angie again:

Wow, the thought of doing that to mislead LV to hunt an innocent boy 
just blows my mind (and turns my stomach!)!  My gut response is to 
say that neither DD nor Snape would put Harry at such risk.  (Yes, 
not even Snape b/c if you read the books carefully, Snape 
consistently protects Harry).  

But if you're right, it kinda gives new meaning to DD's comment in SS 
that he wouldn't remove Harry's scar if he could and that scars come 
in handy, doesn't it?  :)  The very visible scar would would 
assure "The Chose One" no anonymity whatsoever in the WW and would 
keep him on everyone's minds.  Without the scar, they could change 
Harry's name, make up a cover story, and he could be incognito.

But this theory seems contradictory to DD's stated intention to tell 
Harry the truth about what happened.  But then, again, as someone 
else pointed out in another post (sorry, don't know who), DD 
encouraged the rumors about the Shrieking Shack, so he's not above 
rumor-mongering when it suits his purpose -- how much more crucial 
would his purpose be in this case, if it bought them time to go 
Horcrux-Hunting?  Hmmmm . . .

Just curious, are you assuming that whoever might have AK'd LV from 
behind did not know about the Horcruxes?  Because the way I read LV's 
speech to the DEs in the graveyard, they knew about the Horcruxes 
("And then I asked myself, but how could they have believed I would 
not rise again?  They, who knew the steps I took, long ago, to guard 
myself against mortal death?" GOF, U.S. softcover at 648.).  Did that 
person believe that LV would, in fact, be killed?  Man, that's one 
spell I wouldn't want to risk failing on me!