[HPforGrownups] Re: R.A.B

puduhepa98 at aol.com puduhepa98 at aol.com
Thu Apr 6 04:13:04 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 150602


Carol responds:
Evidently you didn't go back to the post I linked  to, which provides
possible (and IMO plausible) answers to most of those  questions.

In my scenario, Regulus wouldn't need to be a powerful  wizard:
Bellatrix had already found the cave and the boat based on  LV's
descriptions, and Kreacher accompanied her, so he also knew how  to
enter the cave and summon the boat. <snip>After Regulus replaced the  Horcrux 
with a similar locket, the bowl,
not knowing the difference, would  refill itself.
 
Nikkalmati:
Yes, Carol I read the previous messages on this topic.  I didn't mean  to 
imply that there is anything wrong with your hypotheses, just to offer an  
alternative. :-).  I do like having Bella plant the necklace in the  cave, because 
that allows me to postulate a switching point.  If Bella  brought the necklace 
to the Black family home after LV gave it to her, RAB had  the chance to find 
out the plan from Bella and open the bag or box she  brought it in and switch 
the LV necklace with another similar  necklace.  Bella would not open the bag 
until she was in the darkness of  the cave and might well not notice the 
difference. ( Harry did not notice  any problem with the necklace even though he 
must have stared at  it a  dozen times while he was dipping the potion; however, 
when he looked at it at  Hogwarts he immediately noticed it was not the same 
as the one he saw in the  pensive.)  We both have the problem of where the 
necklace was  between the time LV recovered it from B&B and the plan to place it 
in  the cave circa 1980.
 
  I don't think Bella had any reason to take Kreacher with  her.  I'm sure 
she thought she could do everything herself by just  following LV's directions.  
When she reached the island she would set up  the basin, put in the necklace 
she took out of the bag, and pour in the potion  or say the spell that would 
fill the bowl.  That is a good suggestion that  the bowl was spelled to refill 
itself, if it was emptied and another necklace  placed in it.  However, I 
don't understand why LV would set it up that  way.  Once somebody has taken the 
Horcrux out,  there is not much need  for the potion.  Wouldn't it make more 
sense for the bowl to be spelled to  refill itself every time someone dipped out 
a bit, so that no one could get  to the bottom?     And I am not sure there is 
any basis  for speculating that the metabolism of a House Elf is so different 
from a  human's that it would not be poisoned by the green stuff, even if 
Kreacher came  with Bella, showed RAB how to get to the island and drank the 
potion for RAB and  never told anyone about it.  I also don't think the problem 
with the boat  is just a matter of finding where it is.  I think only a powerful 
wizard  could raise it up and use it.  As you say RAB was barely fully  
qualified.  My theory just seems simpler to me.
 
I know it is canon that LV did not know the diary had been destroyed until  
he was told.  However, I presumed DD's statement about the potion not  killing 
immediately so LV could find out how the perpetrator had gotten through  his 
defenses must mean something.  The cave is a very elaborate system of  
protection.  If the potion did not kill at once, LV must have some way of  finding the 
thief to identify him and question him.  If RAB and Kreacher  came to the 
cave and got away, then, of course, there is no method of detecting  intrusion.  
Once we know RAB was an opponent of LV, we can imagine lots of  ways he could 
have been done in. I agree that some of the DE's knew about  the Horcrux (but 
not haw many), because LV chides them in the graveyard about  not searching 
for him even though they knew he had taken measures to  preserve his life.
 
Nikkalmati       


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