DADA curse and Re: Maligning Lupin

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Apr 6 13:58:50 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 150608

> Carol responds:
 There's the DADA curse, simultaneously working to expose
> Lupin and to aid Voldemort by returning his servant Wormtail to him.
> IMO, the DADA curse explains everything--why Lupin kept the map rather
> than turning it in to DD and confessing all his secrets, why Lupin
> happened to be looking at the map just as Sirius Black/Padfoot was
> dragging Ron (with Pettigrew in his pocket) into the tunnel, why Lupin
> left the map open for Snape to see, why Lupin rushed out without his
> potion on a full-moon night, why Snape arrived two minutes too late to
> give it to him, why Lupin transformed when he did, allowing Pettigrew
> to escape and restore LV to "human" form. Coincidence? Not if LV's
> will in the form of the DADA curse is at work.

Pippin:
That's an awful lot of work for one curse. It doesn't seem to act that
way with the other DADA teachers either. For each of them, the proximate
cause of their departure is a deliberate attack or an attempted attack on a 
student -- even Snape with his stinging hex, or whatever it was,
that incites Buckbeak to chase him.

I don't think the curse helps LV either, because if it did, it should have 
allowed Quirrell to steal the stone and finish off Harry before 
Dumbledore arrived.

 Wouldn't it be elegant if all the curse provides is temptation?

Back in PS/SS, Hagrid defends Snape by saying that he wouldn't hurt 
a student because he's a Hogwarts teacher. It sounds like Hagrid  thinks
all Hogwarts teachers are saints at the time.  But what if the spells
of protection on Hogwarts provide that a teacher who deliberately
endangers or attempts to harm a student will be cast out? It would
certainly appeal to Voldemort if he could turn the Founders' magic
to his benefit.

Of course no magic is foolproof, so Quirrell could admit a troll or
hex Harry's broom and use occlumency to hide the knowledge 
that he's endangering students. Umbridge could force Harry to 
harm himself with the quill, sincerely thinking it's for his own
good, toad that she is, and only trigger the curse when she 
attempts to crucio him.

According to this theory, then, ESE!Lupin triggered the curse when
he decided to use his transformation to help Pettigrew to
escape, knowing that would put the children in danger. (Even  if he
had secretly taken his potion, the children were still in danger from the
escaping Pettigrew, who hexed Ron.)

> Carol:
> Setting aside the tower incident, which doesn't require ESE!Lupin for
> DDM!Snape to have made the only possible choice (the lesser of two
> evils, etc.), I agree with you that Harry has shifted the blame for
> Sirius Black's death onto Snape. 

Pippin:
IMO, it requires ESE!somebody to help Draco get the Death Eaters into 
the castle. Draco is too weak and unreliable an operative to work without
supervision nearby. No doubt someone will reply that Draco, like Pettigrew,
could be more adept than anyone thinks. That's true. But Voldemort is
hardly likely to see it that way. 

The advantage of ESE!Lupin killing Black instead of Bella is that as long as
Harry believes  Black's recklessness contributed to his death,
he can blame Snape for inciting it. But if Sirius was betrayed, then
avoiding  known DE's  would not have saved him, and Snape is not to blame at
all.

Pippin








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