Pansy/ Re: House characteristics

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No: HPFGUIDX 150634

> > Alla:
<SNIP>
>> > Now, Okay, she likes Hermione, she really likes Hermione, I 
> understand 
> > that, so it is understandable that she wants young girls to be 
like 
> > her, but what is so BAD about Pancy Parkinson that she does not 
want  
> > the girls to be like her, except that Pancy is in Slytherin 
House?
> > 
> > I mean, maybe I totally forgot some canon about it ( entirely 
> > possible), but so far I do not recall anything about Pancy being 
> > stupid or really bad "person" (Well, I suppose one can argue 
that 
> > choosing Draco for boyfriend is not very smart thing to do, but 
> > besides that... I don't know), except that Pancy is in Slytherin.
> 
> zgirnius:
> Pansy is a very minor character, to be sure, but quite unpleasant 
in 
> her own way. There's a fansite, http://pansy.frosti.org, devoted 
to her 
> (Google is amazing, as is how some people choose to spend their 
time, 
> not that I'm one to talk) which seems to quote every mention of 
her in 
> the six books, and I would say over half of them have Pansy being 
> actively unpleasant. Just a sampling of the highlights 
(lowlights?) of 
> Pansy's career:
> 
> > Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone
> > Chapter 9
> >"Ooh, sticking up for Longbottom?" said Pansy Parkinson, a hard-
faced 
> Slytherin girl. "Never thought you'd like fat little crybabies, 
> Parvati."
> 
> zgirnius:
> So, she's more than just Draco's girlfriend, she's an accomplice 
of 
> sorts to his bullying of Neville here.

<SNIP of the other great quotes showing Pansy as a mean person>


Alla:

Hey, thanks for the quotes Zara. :) I left in the only one which to 
me could somehow explain why JKR does not want the girls to be like 
her.

You see, all other quotes you brought up show to me that Pancy can 
be insulting, which is not good indeed, not in my book anyway.

But she does not DO anything IMO, moreover, she does not talk along 
the lines of the "pureblood philosophy", which I personally find ( 
and IMO JKR does too) the most disgusting feature of the Slytherin 
House.

Pansy just insults whoever Draco would insult ( without actually 
calling Hermione "mudblood").

Now, her insult of Neville is related to JKR's "fat rant" I suppose 
( as someone also pointed to me off list yesterday), so maybe that 
is why JKR made this comparison? 

Again, do not get me wrong, I have NO problem whatsoever with JKR 
within fictional reality preferring Gryffindors in general over 
Slytherins. I do NOT believe that with one book left she would pull 
the rug completely, I have the feeling that she thinks that in 
destroying stereotypes  she did enough by giving us one bad 
Gryffindor and  maybe one good Slytherin? And again I am fine with 
it, because she made the Gryffs flawed, that is for sure, but I 
don't think anybody would be able to convince me that we saw flawed 
but GOOD characters in Slytherin house so far. I mean, among the 
adults we have whom .... Regulus and Slughorn? I deliberately leave 
out Snape of course, since to me his loyalties are.... how we put 
it  questionable?

But forget about adults, because IMO kids are what matters and among 
the Gryffindors we of course have Trio, Neville. Dean Thomas, 
Seamus, Ginny, Twins, etc.... and among Slytherins we have whom? 

Right, so I just think that JKR gave us more confirmation that at 
the end ( if the Houses will stand, I always said and still do that 
IMO Houses will dissappear by assimilating good qualities of each 
other and minimising bad ones, thus achieving real unity of 
Hogwarts) Slytherin house will be the house of one or two "good" 
students at most and by "good" I sure don't mean perfect, but those 
who will fight with Harry at the end.

JMO,

Alla.