Snape=Judas?

[Tonks]

No: HPFGUIDX 150751

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "juli17ptf" <juli17 at ...> wrote:
>
> I was reading an article in the L.A. Times this morning about the 
lost Gospel of Judas, a series of conversations wherein Judas was 
Jesus' closest friend, and only carried out his betrayal because 
Jesus asked him to do it. Beside the debate of whether this early 
gospel (one of many that were declared heretical by the early 
church) portrays the true relationship between Jesus and Judas, I 
couldn't help thinking of Snape and Dumbledore as I read this. 
> (Snip)

Elisabet wrote:
>Oh dear, I have a horrid picture forming in my mind of JKR letting
out an evil cackle as she buries a sealed earthern jar - within which
is contained the *true* manuscript of book 7 - in the floor of some
>nondescript cave in the Egyptian desert...


Tonks:
Is JKR really Cassandra?

Makes you wonder doesn't it?  I don't mean that she actually buried 
a jar, but how does she KNOW these things.  Let me explain:
When 9-11 happened my first rational thought after cursing the idiot 
we have for a president (or what JKR calls "that horrible man") 
was "thank god all of those children read the 4th book of Harry 
Potter." By that I mean that I think reading about how LV came back 
helped children understand real evil and maybe somehow it prepared 
them for it.  And then real evil happened in our Muggle world.  

Again last year JKR was going to read from the first chapter of HPB 
on July 16th but had to switch chapters because on July 10th 
terrible things really did happen in London.  And throughout the 
books the parallels between the evil that is happening in our world 
and what is happening in the books are so real.  Now one could argue 
that evil is evil and the connections are just there because of 
that, and I would agree.  On the other hand, it does make you stop 
and wonder. 

 Now the story of the Gospel of Judas is just coming out.  Like 
others, I too thought about Snape and DD when I saw this on TV.  I 
think that I was one of the first here to say that DD was a Christ 
figure and Snape was Judas, but still DD's man. (I have said all 
along that JKR is using many Christian symbols in the books and 
telling a metaphorical story about ultimate truth from a Christian 
perspective.) But how does JKR know about these discoveries about 
Judas before they are made public?  Does she have a friend that is 
one of the scientist?

I know that scholars have had different debates about the role of 
Judas for many years.  Some say that he was a Zealot and expected 
that Jesus was going to lead a rebellion and Judas tried to push him 
to start it that night. Later when Judas realized that he had 
misunderstood the type of Messiah that Jesus was, he felt so bad 
about what he had done that he hung himself.  For years scholars 
have debated what the words of Jesus meant when he said to 
Judas "what you are going to do, do quickly".  These debates are 
much like the one we have here on the HPFGU list over what was meant 
by DD's words "Severus, please
".

Oh an intuitive level, which connects with the subconscious where 
our collective unconscious resides, I just sense that there is 
something in these books that are so much more than just an 
interesting and enjoyable tale.  There is deep truth here, and I 
wonder if there is even more.  Is JKR the next Moses?  Is there a 
burning bush behind that locked door? What is this woman really 
doing?

Tonks_op
Who hopes that people don't think that she has gone off the deep end 
here. Next I will be seen carrying around a sign that says "the 
world will come to an end when the 7th seal is opened on 7-7-
7."  "OH, NO, are those wizards in white coats coming for me??"