Is Harry a Murderer / Killer!! ?? !! Yeah or Nah??

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 18 06:15:30 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 151057

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Laurel Lei" <laurel_lei at ...> 
wrote:
>
> But, over that last year or so, I have read many posts that have 
> touched a nerve, so to speak. They mention that Harry is NOT a 
> murderer or NOT a killer or that he is not capable of it or that 
they hope he doesn't have to succumb to the murder of Voldemort via 
the  prophecy (snip)> 
(Snip)What about Quirrelmort???? He's dead and no one else was 
> there but Harry... Snip> What about Voldemort's soul bit in the 
diary horcrux??? (snip)> 
> Wouldn't Harry's soul be torn by his involvement in the death of 
> Quirrel or the "death" of Voldie's soul bit...???
> (snip)
> And I believe that Harry would have killed Bella in the MOM 
> during/post battle.
> 
> And what about Draco in the bathroom and the sectasempra spell...?
 (snip)

Tonks:
I think that Harry, like all of us, is capable of murder or 
killing.  I think that there is a difference in degree, but taking a 
life is taking a life even if in war or in self defense.  There is 
in the books as in RL differences in the punishment depending on the 
circumstances. It is interesting that the Aurors were given 
permission to use an AK if necessary in the line of duty. And then 
you can get into the whole 'just war' debates.

As to Harry and the incident with Draco; I don't think that Harry 
met to kill Draco.  He did not know what the spell would do and 
seemed truly sorry that he did it when he saw what happened to Draco 
as a result.  If there is a message there, it is that sometimes we 
do not know what the consequences of our actions might be to someone 
else. The results might be far worse that we intended and that maybe 
we should think first before using a spell that we know nothing 
about.  If Draco had died, one could argue, I guess, for involuntary 
manslaughter. 

I think the events in the books show that Harry is angry enough at 
times to want to kill someone, but that part of him does not really 
want to do so.  Wouldn't most of us feel that way?  If we were 
really angry and did kill someone in a fit of rage, the feeling of 
guilt would haunt us for the rest of our life.  This is different 
that LV who does not feel remorse of any kind for anything that he 
does.  
-----------
Laurel Lei:
I found it very difficult to explain to my sons that if he were to 
harm another like Harry did to Draco or the others that they 
wouldn't "just get detentions". Or to explain to them that it is not 
okay to state that you would like to "kill" someone. 

Tonks:
Tis true that it is best never to say that outloud. It is OK, I 
think, to acknowledge to ourselves that we feel that way. But 
telling someone else, even if in jest may be taken the wrong way by 
some damn fool and then you would be is serious trouble. For example 
saying it about the President will get you arrested. 

I am hoping that good old LV will just commit suicide and save us 
all the grief. Who knows maybe he will.  Would that be a kicker?  
Some say that he is painted in the light of Hitler, so maybe
  

Tonks 









More information about the HPforGrownups archive