Is Harry a Murderer / Killer!! ?? !! Yeah or Nah??
Tonks
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Tue Apr 18 06:15:30 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 151057
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Laurel Lei" <laurel_lei at ...>
wrote:
>
> But, over that last year or so, I have read many posts that have
> touched a nerve, so to speak. They mention that Harry is NOT a
> murderer or NOT a killer or that he is not capable of it or that
they hope he doesn't have to succumb to the murder of Voldemort via
the prophecy (snip)>
(Snip)What about Quirrelmort???? He's dead and no one else was
> there but Harry... Snip> What about Voldemort's soul bit in the
diary horcrux??? (snip)>
> Wouldn't Harry's soul be torn by his involvement in the death of
> Quirrel or the "death" of Voldie's soul bit...???
> (snip)
> And I believe that Harry would have killed Bella in the MOM
> during/post battle.
>
> And what about Draco in the bathroom and the sectasempra spell...?
(snip)
Tonks:
I think that Harry, like all of us, is capable of murder or
killing. I think that there is a difference in degree, but taking a
life is taking a life even if in war or in self defense. There is
in the books as in RL differences in the punishment depending on the
circumstances. It is interesting that the Aurors were given
permission to use an AK if necessary in the line of duty. And then
you can get into the whole 'just war' debates.
As to Harry and the incident with Draco; I don't think that Harry
met to kill Draco. He did not know what the spell would do and
seemed truly sorry that he did it when he saw what happened to Draco
as a result. If there is a message there, it is that sometimes we
do not know what the consequences of our actions might be to someone
else. The results might be far worse that we intended and that maybe
we should think first before using a spell that we know nothing
about. If Draco had died, one could argue, I guess, for involuntary
manslaughter.
I think the events in the books show that Harry is angry enough at
times to want to kill someone, but that part of him does not really
want to do so. Wouldn't most of us feel that way? If we were
really angry and did kill someone in a fit of rage, the feeling of
guilt would haunt us for the rest of our life. This is different
that LV who does not feel remorse of any kind for anything that he
does.
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Laurel Lei:
I found it very difficult to explain to my sons that if he were to
harm another like Harry did to Draco or the others that they
wouldn't "just get detentions". Or to explain to them that it is not
okay to state that you would like to "kill" someone.
Tonks:
Tis true that it is best never to say that outloud. It is OK, I
think, to acknowledge to ourselves that we feel that way. But
telling someone else, even if in jest may be taken the wrong way by
some damn fool and then you would be is serious trouble. For example
saying it about the President will get you arrested.
I am hoping that good old LV will just commit suicide and save us
all the grief. Who knows maybe he will. Would that be a kicker?
Some say that he is painted in the light of Hitler, so maybe
Tonks
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