[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore's Death

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 151077

Tonks wrote:
As you know I see many symbols in the series that point toward a
Christian theme. What is confusing is the way in which JKR stirs
these symbols and causes them to come out in rather unexpected way,
sometimes in very disguised ways and sometimes hidden in plain site.
Everything from the names of each book to the mark on Harry forehead
are symbols of something more. And so I think are the deaths of both
Sirius and DD.

Let us start with Sirius. His closest friends and the ones that he
hangs out with most are Peter, James and John (Remus John Lupin).
This is also true of Jesus. We hear that he frequently went with
Peter, James and John. Jesus also transfigured in their presence,
and so does Sirius. All of this points to Sirius being a Christ
figure. Also we have the fact, so I am told, that the star Sirius is
seen as the `morning star' by some and also as the Messianic star
that the magi followed. And the morning star is Christ. But the
biggest thing is the way in which Sirius dies. Oddly he goes behind
the veil in both body and soul. Has anyone else ever done that in
the WW?  I would think maybe not. This points to the Ascension of
Jesus.

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Kemper now:
I can think of no other non-DE character less like Jesus than Sirius.

Sirius is arrogant, angry, self-righteous, self-pitying, and
unforgiving.  He's like an anti-Jesus, if not an anti-Christ.  Jesus was
crucified and died willingly.  Sirius was shoved unwillingly by Bella,
tumbling beyond the veil... with a look of surprise, IIRC.

To clarify, the Morning Star is Venus.  The Dog Star is Sirius.  It is
unclear which star or astrological event became the Star of Bethlehem that
the Magi followed.

Going back to Sirius as Jesus that would suggest Harry as Everyman (with the
belief that Jesus died of Us).  I find this difficult to accept as I,
personally, don't relate to Harry who I see as unique, as a hero. Rather, I
relate to Ron, Neville, and Luna.

Maybe Harry will be the Christ figure, dying knowingly and willing for Ron,
Neville, Luna, the Wizarding World.. for all of us Muggles.  That would be a
good death and maybe a good ending.

-Kemper


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