Dumbledore on the Dursleys in OotP /some Star Wars.

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 19 03:00:30 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 151110

> Magpie:
> I sometimes think that one of the problematic things about 
Dumbledore is 
> when we start out with this fairy tale situation Dumbledore is put 
in the 
> odd role of being both fairy godmother and the sort of Merlin-like 
character 
> who places Harry far from his kingdom.
> 
> Only in those kinds of stories, like with King Arthur, the idea is 
usually 
> that the hero is raised in the country on a farm.  Even if he's 
treated as a 
> sort of servant or his greatness isn't recognized, he's not abused 
like 
> Cinderella is and like Harry is.  So it's just very hard to 
reconcile the 
> two. When Harry gets to Hogwarts we get that we're supposed to see 
> Dumbledore as this wonderful protector and a wise man, but if you 
think 
> about it you can't not ask, "Hey, Mr. Really Nice and Wise 
Guy...could you 
> not have done something about the years of abuse there?"  For me 
it really 
> seems like you just have to let it go or not, because you can't 
really 
> reconcile it.  The blood protection is the best thing we've got, I 
think, 
> because it suggests that Dumbledore did have to give Harry to this 
family 
> (though still only interfering only when his plan is threatened, 
not Harry's 
> well-being).


Alla:

I think you nailed it, actually. I saw the reference to the not very 
succesful meshing of Dumbledore's prototypes or whatever the better 
word for it is earlier, but I think I only fully realised it now.

I saw the comment in another post (Betsy?) that Dumbledore is not 
Yoda like, all knowing, etc, but I don't think that one of 
his "ancestors" so to speak is Yoda. It is Obivan Kenobi, no? I mean 
I am speaking loosely of course and I usually don't find too many 
parallels between Star wars and Potterverse, I am just trying to 
grasp why Dumbledore's multiple personalities don't always work for 
me.

Obivan Kenobi indeed hides Luc and he does not know who he is and 
about his father's greateness, etc, etc,  and it WORKS for me, 
because Luc is not abused as Harry is, so I am not angry at Obivan 
at all for saving Luc life, even if it means hiding his past.

But I wonder, I am not sure if Cinderella's godmother could be 
analogised with DD at all. I mean she did not put Cinderella there 
in the first place, right?

I mean, I see where Dumbledore wavers from those stories where as 
you said Hero is raised on the farm, etc. These mentors are indeed 
easier to grasp, because they truly hide the hero for his own good, 
but as I said for all  the talk about Cinderella, I realised while 
typing that post that I don't see any a-la Dumbledore "types" in 
there.

Fairy Godmother saves her from the worlf which she did not put 
Cinderella in, like DD did.

Am I making sense? Was I simply introduced to different version of 
Cinderella? 

Alla.







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