legalities, dark magic, and dark wizards

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 20 19:47:10 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 151219

> >>Najwa:
> > I have had a question about one particular spell or charm I      
> > suppose. The love charm. it's not unforgivable, yet it takes     
> > away a person's right to choice and free will of love, doesn't   
> > it? It's almost like a love based Imperius. I can understand if 
> > it was a spell to increase love that was already there or        
> > perhaps keep it going, but to make someone fall in love with     
> > you? It almost sounds like ruphynol mixed in with a bit of the   
> > cayote ugly scenerio, only long term.

> >>Finwitch:
> <snip>
> Secondly, the effect is temporary - it will stop working by itself
> after a while.
> <snip>
> The Imperius, OTOH, while it can be fought, will usually also last 
> the same way as the crucio - and the caster can be someplace else 
> and leave it working!
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
I suspect that the reason love potions are considered okay while the 
imperius is a big bad no-no is the muggle prejudice.  I suspect that 
muggles are, in general, more susceptible to the potions, while most 
wizards can be taken down by the Imperius.

With Ron the point was made that the potion was old and had 
therefore intensified, and we also know that he is pretty 
susceptible to any sort of lust suggestion.  (His reactions to 
veelas.)

But the two times we see people turned into mindless slaves by love 
potions, the effected are muggles.  The first was Tom Riddle, and 
the second was that poor muggle who was being used as a table by the 
witch that snared him.

See the WOMBAT test: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/151138

"5. Witch F fed love potion to a Muggle man, who has
married her. When you went around with a wedding gift you
discovered that she is using him as an occasional table."

Since wizards generally see muggles as slightly less than full 
human, this sort of behavior while bad isn't labeled as 
Unforgivable.  Or at least, that's how it looks to me anyway.

Oh, and I'd say the scenario JKR put forth in her test puts paid to 
the "was Tom raped" question.  It seems to me that Merope raped Tom 
in just about every way possible.  No wonder she decided to die.    

Betsy Hp 







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