SHIP Ron/ Hermione /Re:Prefect Ron
Joe Goodwin
joegoodwin1067 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 23 14:05:37 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 151322
Neil:
<SNIP>
In literature, a
writer owes it to their readers to show why she has placed people together and
why they belong with each other. Here, I feel is where JKR has failed.
Joe:
Well you certainly have the right to feel she failed though there are obviously lots of people who disagree.
Neil:
As the books proceeded, Rowling dropped clue after clue that Ron and
Hermione would eventually be together. Those clues had many of us saying, 'but
why?' They constantly fight and bicker and seem to have nothing in common other
than Harry. Meanwhile she wrote Harry and Hermione as much more compatible. <Snip>
Joe:
No offense but that seems like purely personal opinion. I can go back and find many instances where both Ron and Harry bicker with Hermione a great deal.
Neil:
Even after the greatest hint in GoF that they had feelings for each other,
she went on to write OotP where they continue to fight. Even in HBP where we
know R/Hr is going to happen, we keep asking ourselves why. Krum adored
Hermione, even Neville thinks highly of her. Other than Draco, Ron seems the
worst match for her in the book. The only really tender moment Ron and Hermione
have ever shared is at the funeral.
Joe:
No, the only tender moment Harry's sees is at the funeral and there is the issue. We see only what Harry sees for the most part and I don't think any of us want to read a book that focuses on Ron and Hermiones relationship or lack there of. Not to mention we don't really know that Krum adored Hermione. We do know she was the thing he would miss the most. That could however have simply been because she didn't follow him around because he was a Quidditch player. While we are on the subject did anyone else think it was really creepy that she was the thing he would miss the most?
Fluer ,who people like to discount as shallow, would miss her little sister the most. Harry would miss Ron the most which also makes sense. Krum though would miss a girl he barely knew. Not his family, not his friends back at Durmstrang, not any of his Quidditch teammates. That struck me as very creepy.
Neil:
In my opinion, it is too little too late. I feel she just went too far with
the bickering. She just had to get one more laugh out of their fighting and
in doing so she made their relationship seem so unbelievable.
A writer has to do more than decide that two people will end up together.
The writer must also convince her readers that the couple belong together. I
think even R/Hr shippers will admit that Rowling did a poor job of this. If
she hadn't, than every one would be a R/Hr shipper. How many readers wanted
Juliet with someone other than Romeo?
Joe:
Speaking for my self I thought Romeo was a whiney little snot. I also don't think that a writer must convince their reader that a couple belong together. Let's be honest we could have had long scenes where Ron and Hermione(or any other pairing) have long tender scenes of undying devotion and people would still say the pairing was flawed.
This is because shipping is based on emotion. People see something they indentify with in a pairing then they pick evidence from the books to support their belief and to pick apart other people's beliefs. Even if they have to misquote or distort the evidence. I think JKR is going to put R/Hr together but it isn't important to the books. The books are about the fight against Voldemort and everything else is secondary at best. Shipping is (IMHO) the very worst part of HP fandom.
Joe
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