...Erised DD....
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 23 22:26:28 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 151344
> >>Pippin wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/151165>:
>
> << But what makes it obvious that we're supposed to take Harry's
> line? [that Dumbledore knew what was going on and let Harry have
> his chance [to rescue the Stone], and this is a good thing,] >>
> >>Catlady:
> That the obstacles were so easy that three first-years could get
> through them. Many listies have said it seems unlikely that the
> greatest wizard alive and five more professors's best efforts to
> block Voldemort are obstacles that *children* can get through. And
> that DD made sure that Harry found out in advance how the Mirror of
> Erised works.
Betsy Hp:
But the obstacles *weren't* that easy. Harry and Ron nearly died at
the very start when they hit the Devil's Snare. And even Hermione
completely lost her head at that moment.
Ron very nearly died when he sacrificed himself on the chess board.
Remember, the Queen struck him in the head. And any decent chess
player knows that a win generally requires a sacrifice of some sort.
And at the end, Harry not only very nearly died, his very presence
combined with his knowledge of the Mirror of Erised, very nearly put
the Stone into Voldemort's hands.
What the obstacles did strike me as was a very neat trap for a very
clever wizard. Difficult enough to provide a modicum of effort
(especially since there were different skill sets involved) but not
so difficult as to require extra help or to cause the wizard to give
up. Until, that is, the wizard reached the Mirror.
Just like trapping a raccoon, actually. (At least according to folk
lore.) Where you put something shiny in a large object with a
narrow opening. The raccoon can reach into the opening with an
opened hand, but once he grasps the object within, his closed fist
won't fit back out. The only way the raccoon can escape is to let
the object go. The idea is that the raccon is incapable of letting
go and is thereby trapped.
I think that was Dumbldore's plan all along. Which is why he was so
open about where the Stone was hidden and why he involved so many
people, including the not so good at keeping secrets, Hagrid. (Plus
the already under suspicion, Quirrell.)
I think Harry really did just stumble across the Mirror. It wasn't
until after he and Ron discussed the Mirror at dinner with the staff
(when Harry was already loosing sleep and probably looking like it)
that Dumbledore intervened.
I really, really have a hard time accepting the gauntlet as
Dumbledore "testing" Harry. Though it comes across as logical in
the first book, the rest of the series doesn't bare that sort of
behavior out, IMO.
Actually, I think Dumbledore *did* test Harry in PS/SS, but it was
the slightly less exciting Norton adventure that he used. It was a
perfect way to see how Harry handled a friend in trouble. I doubt
McGonagall was supposed to get involved. But I can see Dumbledore
deciding against interfering even after the massive amount of points
taken ended in such a painful drop in popularity. It's a bit of a
bastard move, but a heck of a lot less of a bastard move than nearly
killing three first years. And it explains the giddy point giving
that occurs at the closing feast. IMO, anyway.
Betsy Hp
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