Dumbledore on the Dursleys in OotP (LONG)
PJ
midnightowl6 at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 27 15:36:50 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 151546
Lupinlore:
> And herein is why that particular scene was a disastrous failure
on
> JKR's part. I don't agree with much of anything in the post, but
I
> do acknowledge that the final scene of OOTP can be read that way.
> Indeed, simply on the face of it, and divorced from HBP, that is
> perhaps the most plausible way to read the scene.
PJ:
No two people will ever read it the same way but I'm curious why you
feel that any of the other books contradict this view rather than
reenforce it.
As I see it, In POA Dumbledore helps H&H to get Buckbeak and Sirius
away safely and that's the last thing Dumbledore does to assist
Sirius in any way. He doesn't want an innocent man soul sucked but
what happens after that?
For instance, in GOF, rather than have the Order hide him,
Dumbledore allows Sirius to live on rats - and it's clear Dumbledore
knows exactly where Sirius is since they do communicate. Why isn't
Sirius just as valuable a human being to Dumbledore as Draco is?
Dumbledore offered in HBP to hide Draco's entire family! But not
Sirius.... this doesn't seem just a bit odd to you?
In OOtP the Order needs a safe house so Sirius gives them his
parent's house. Where does JKR show ANY member who's treating
Sirius as anything but a necessary annoyance? Molly and Snape both
treat him like pond scum in his own home and JKR seems to think
that's just fine since she never writes in anyone sticking up for
Sirius by telling those two to knock it off!
After Sirius dies there's no memorial service, no getting together
the Order to say one or two nice things about Sirius - one of their
own fallen members. It's treated almost like he never existed...
Even Mundungus, another Order member, feels it's perfectly ok to
steal from the Black home!
Where is JKR showing even the smallest *hint* of respect for Sirius
in any of the books? I sure don't see it. She even has Harry get
over his death within a couple of weeks!
Lupinlore:
>
> And herein is why, to use Carol's terminology, JKR "bowed to
> criticism" when it came to how she portrayed Dumbledore. JKR was
> simply not getting the message across very clearly.
PJ:
I have no idea what she was trying to write or what it is you read
but I know what message I've gotten throughout the books.
Dumbledore is the leader of the Order and if the leader shows no
respect (how many times has he reminded Harry that it's PROFESSOR,
rather than just Snape?) then neither do the underlings. It's that
simple.
PJ
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