Sirius...Door_to_Door (was: Dumbledore on ...Dursleys...)

kiricat4001 zarleycat at sbcglobal.net
Sun Apr 30 12:40:19 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 151671

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kiricat4001" <zarleycat@> 
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Marianne:
> > 
> > ... I always felt there was something a little dodgy about
> > sending the most wanted fugitive in England wandering about 
> > door-to-door chatting up old Order members. 
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Oooh...just one small problem, Dumbledore didn't send Sirius
> 'door-to-door' to alert the Order memeber, he sent him to Lupin.

> Notice, he is to first contact Remus Lupin who knows he is 
innocent.
> Then they are to contact other order members. Also, since the 
previous
> book (POA, that is) Dumbledore and Lupin have probably been 
spreading
> the word that Peter Petigrew is alive and back which in turn means
> that Sirius Black was innocent of the crimes he was charged with. 
The
> knowledge at the time may not have carried any urgency, so people 
may
> have not given in much wieght. But now that the situation is 
critical,
> now that Voldemort is back, it would mean more. 

Marianne:
<<massive snip>>

I'm not arguing any of Steve's points as I have no argument with 
them.  My "door-to-door" comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.  My 
real issue was with Peggy's argument that Sirius had to leave 
immediately to be the messenger.  Peggy herself had been responding 
to Sherry's comment that perhaps it would have been nice for 
Prophecy Boy to have been granted a small amount of time with 
Sirius. 

> > Marianne:
> >
> > Especially as it seems that Sirius, at that time, traveled by 
> > Hippogriff or on shaggy dog feet, not by Apparation. If time was 
of 
> > the essence, wouldn't it be better to send a message by someone 
who 
> > could Apparate ...? 

> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Sirius was a brilliant student one of the top students to ever come
> through Hogwarts, it's completely unreasonable to think that he 
can't
> Apparate. Now, he has been out of Azkaban for a while, but not that
> long. Logically there would be a period of time during which he 
would
> need to recover his strength and his health. Certainly being weak 
and
> 'defeated' by the Dementors would have affected his ability to
> Apparate, but it has been over a year now, and I'm sure he is
> sufficiently recover to Apparate if he had to. Still, I'm sure it 
is a
> strain. 
> 
> Also, he has the hippogriff, he has to do something with it, it was
> entrusted to his care. It is also a convenient way to travel that
> doesn't require a detectable burst of magical energy. Plus, after 
all
> those dark and desperate years in Azkaban, it is probably nice to 
have
> a companion around. Further, that particular 'companion' was given 
to
> him by Harry, so there is a certain amount of sentimentality there.

Marianne:

DD tells Sirius "I need you to set off at once." This, to me, 
implies a level of urgency that cuts off any discussion of Sirius 
spending even a few moments with Harry, like sitting with him until 
he falls asleep. So SIrius must leave immediately carrying this 
urgent news.  I didn't mean to imply that I don't think Sirius can 
Apparate - I'm sure he  was quite capable of it. My point isn't that 
he can't Apparate, but that, if it is so urgent to get the word out 
about Vmort that Sirius must leave Hogwarts immediately, then it 
makes no sense to have that message not travel as quickly as 
possible. Thus, traveling as Padfoot or via Buckbeak does not meet 
the urgency test.

If, however, it is acceptable to Dumbledore that Sirius is going to 
travel by slower modes of transport and thus, the Order members get 
the information about Vmort's return over the course of several 
days, then Sherry's original comment still stands, that it would 
have been nice for both Harry and Sirius to have spent even a little 
time together.  

Marianne










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