Scene with likeable James WAS: Re: Eileen Pince

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No: HPFGUIDX 156357

 Betsy Hp:
> Ooh, Alla, do you really want to start that conversation up again?
> <bg> Honestly I think Draco and Crabbe and Goyle *were* hard done
> by in that particular scene. Though I wouldn't go so far as to
call
> him *blameless*. (Poor Crabbe and Goyle were though. They, as
> usual, didn't say a word.)

Alla:

Heee, not really, but we can agree at least that Draco is not
blameless if we know the whole story? That is all I am saying that
perception can change drastically or not drastically but at least
somewhat, if we know whole story.


Betsy Hp:
> However, we do get quite a bit of build up into James and Sirius's
> attack on Snape. So I think this is a bit apples and oranges,
> really. Since you'd have to start the memory right at the moment
of
> attack.

Alla:

I did not necessarily mean that the scene itself was cut off,
although that is possible too. I meant to compare that we don't know
what happened between them before in general, maybe even in the
whole year.


Betsy Hp:
> And really, *Harry* is appalled at his father's and Sirius's
> behavior. And Harry knows Snape. If Harry is so bothered by the
> pensieve scene, why is it weird that so many reader are bothered
too?

Alla:

No, not wierd at all, if readers are just as
appalled by Snape's five years bullying of Harry and Neville, but
when the five year bullying gets dismissed, but Marauders are casted
off as bullies on the basis of five minutes scene ( disgusting one
to be sure, but **one** scene,and despite what I posted in the
earlier post,
I do think that the scene is likely real, although anything is
possible) then yes, it is a
little bit strange to me. But of course that is just my opinion.

And of course I do think that their mutual grudge went much deeper
than what we saw so far.

It is what I said to Magpie . IMO we will find out that Harry was
right to be appalled, but we will also find out that Snape was not
blameless in the war between them. He may have been blameless in
that particular scene, but IMO not in the fights between them.
Speculating but IMO with canon hints.

> Ken:
<SNIP>
>Harry is right to be
> distressed to see his dad act this way. Decent boys don't act this
> way. Decent headmasters would not allow Snape to do what he does in
> his classes either. Bully boys can grow out of it and James & 
company
> apparently did. I don't know how to excuse DD. Harry truly is 
better
> than his father in this respect, we have to admire him for that.
>

Alla:
Word, Ken to each and every word of this paragraph. :)

JMO,

Alla