[HPforGrownups] Re: Scene with likeable James WAS: Re: Eileen Pince

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 156384

> Joe wrote:
> ... snip ...
>
> Also why would you think Snape would not care that Lily was muggleborn? Not only did he call her a mudblood which is evidence right there that it did matter to him but only two years down the road he joined a group of people who were pleged to drive the muggleborn out of wizarding society.
>
> That makes no sense at all.

Kemper now:
I haven't read the Death Eater's mission statement, but I'm pretty
sure it doesn't state anything about pledging to drive out
Muggleborns.  Now, that might be the agenda of some within that Dark
Order (Bellatrix, Lucius), but not all.

Also... Snape is Muggleborn.  Voldemort is Muggleborn.  Yes, they both
have witch moms.  Voldemort would not kill off a Muggleborn if he/she
could serve a useful purpose.  Similarly, he wouldn't refrain from
killing a Pureblood who has out last his/her usefulness.

Does it make sense now?


> Kemper earlier:
>
> What if at the end of Harry's written DADA O.W.L's, he and Ron
> rolled-up on and started provoking Draco while Hermione pretended she
> didn't know what was going on? We already know what an arrogant prick
> Draco is, but would we think this scene of righteous bullying funny?
>
> Would Harry be in the right here? Or would we think a little less of
> him based on only a 5 minute incident?
>
>
> Joe responded:
> No I wouldn't think one bit less of Harry.... Malfoy has been asking for something like that since their first year. He has pushed, prodded, insulted and been a general jerk to the three of them for so long I wonder why they haven't done it. So much so that it makes the books a little less believable. In a real school they would have stuffed him in his locker at best and bat him down at worst long before fifth year. Harry is a saint for not having given him the beat down he has been asking for.
>
> In fact I think if someone had taken Malfoy down a few pegs earlier he would not have been willing to let things go as far as they did.

Kemper now:
What are you talking about?!  Draco talks shit a lot in the books.
Harry talks shit back.  Draco's a prick to Hermione and she
righteously hit him.  Harry and his friends have not been passive
limpies when it comes to giving what they've been getting.

So why would Draco deserve my hypothetical scenario wear he gets a beat down?

> Joe wrote:
> I don't like Snape but I am betting that what James and Sirius did wasn't the worst memory. I don't think he was that big of a wimp. I think it was Lily defending him in public that was his worst memory.
> 

Kemper now:
I agree that James and Sirius weren't the reason for this scene tagged
as Snape's worst memory, but I think it has to do with his regret for
calling Lily a Mudblood.

...That, or it's for Harry: the worst memory Harry has seen from Snape
because he has to reevaluate his vision of his dad.

Kemper