Three instead of four horcruxes left.
Tonks
tonks_op at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 7 16:19:45 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 156651
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Rebecca" <bectay at ...> wrote:
>
> I have never posted anything on any website, but I have been
reading the different, theories, etc. for the last few months.
(Snip)
> When Voldemort tried to kill Harry and the curse rebounded back on
> him, didn't one of the 6 horcruxes have to be used to keep him
> alive? On page 648 of GoF (US), Voldemort asks "And then I ask
> myself, but how could they have believed I would not rise again?
> They, who knew the steps I took, long ago, to guard myself against
> mortal death?".
>
> After finishing HBP, my thoughts were that the seventh piece of
soul left in LV was destroyed by the rebounded curse and that LV had
to use one of the horcruxes to stay alive, which would leave only 5.
> The diary and the ring have been destroyed. That would leave the
> locket and the cup for the next two. The third is either Nagini or
> something of Gryffindor's or something of Ravenclaw's.
Tonks:
Hi Rebecca. Welcome to the group.
I know that many have said that the DE did not know what LV did. But
here you have canon that shows that they do know. I would think that
LV would not trust them that much. Maybe he only told them that he
made one. That could be why RAB thought that he had destroyed the
only one. If you could at any time have a traitor among your
followers, it is best not to let them know too much. I would guess
that the DE knew he had a Horcrux, but were told that he made only
one. Only Slughorn knows that LV was toying with the idea of 7 soul
bits, or 6 horcruxes.
As to LV only having 5 horcruxes left, I disagree. I think the
purpose of a horcrux is to bind your soul, all of it, to the earth.
When LV lost his body, his soul part that was still in that body did
not leave the earth. It did not go beyond. So he did not lose
anything.
The concept of splitting the soul is similar to the psychologically
idea of splitting off part of the self. When one splits off part of
the self the self that remains does not know what that other part is
doing, it is disconnected from it. I think that JKR is using this
same idea when she says, through DD, that LV does not know when a
horcrux has been destroyed.
Now we do not know what happens to the soul bit once the horcrux has
been destroyed. I would guess that it might return to the original,
but still split off. IMO, it returns to LV, but since it is split
off, just like the person who has split off part of themself, it
resides in LV's body, but not connected to the rest of his soul. He
is a fragmented being. A person with a damaged psychic. A person
who is whole has integrated all of the separate parts of themselves
into one. This is part of the process of maturation. This is also
why I think that maybe LV is a symbol of the split off part of Harry
know as the shadow, and Harry will absorb LV into himself. This
theory might not be correct, since I think we are told that Harry is
whole already. I don't mean his soul, his soul is whole since he has
never killed. I mean his mind, in a Jungian sense.
Tonks_op
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