Choices (wasThe Unloved Son (was Could I be wrong about Snape being evil?))

[abergoat]

No: HPFGUIDX 156735

phoenixgod2000 wrote:
> But if JKR goes out and turns Snape
> into an uber-hero who was on the right side the whole time, no
> mistakes made, then I will give away my books and never read them
> anything about Harry Potter again.

Abergoat writes:
But what if Snape IS just another Voldemort-type (filled with hatred
and contempt for everyone) but just happens to hate Voldemort more
than everyone else? I don't think he'll be a hero even if he has
always been on the right side - I suspect anything he does is for
revenge, not a 'hero' worthy emotion. But Dumbledore would recognize
that everyone (even Mundungus) has their uses.

phoenixgod2000 wrote:
> Snape at least becomes marginally more interesting if he is a flawed
> man who made mistakes, tries to make up for them, and continues to
> make mistakes along the way based on his human falliblities.

Abergoat writes:
I think even Dumbledore fits that statement. Just as you hate the idea
of a good Snape I've never understood why so many people want Snape to
have joined the Death Eaters for the 'wrong' reasons and then 'see the
light'. Personally, I think the essence of character is relatively
fixed long before adulthood and Snape was an adult when he joined the
Death Eaters. People don't change that much in fundementals...and
certainly not over  unrequited love. I think JKR's grasp of what
drives people is better than that. Snape is calculating, I'm sure his
entrance into the Death Eaters was also calculated. Regulus was
different, it is suggested he was allowing himself to be driven by the
expectations of  others. I cannot say I can think of an instance where
we get that from Snape.

phoenixgod2000 wrote:
> I still
> hope to see bad things happen to him and for someone to call him on
> all his crap from the first five books but like I said, I'm not
> holding my breath.

Abergoat writes:
JKR tells us Snape is a horrible man so I'm sure he will be at the end
of the book too. But that doesn't predetermine his position on the
'bad' side, I think that is the only point that JKR will make. I
imagine Snape doesn't survive the series. But he probably will accept
death provided it brings about the death of his mortal enemy - whom I
suspect is Voldemort. So will he be 'punished' for past sins? That
will probably be viewpoint dependent.

phoenixgod2000 wrote:
> Snape/Lily is interesting. I think it could be done well, but I don't
> have faith in JKR to do it well after what I see as the shipping
> debacle of Half Blood Prince. Maybe a Snape/Lily romantic history
> might knock Saint Lily off her pedestal.

Abergoat writes:
Again, viewpoint dependent. I found none of the shipping in HBP a
surprise. But I will be surprised if there is Snape/Lily romantic
history. Personally I think Snape has a soft spot for the older but
very beautiful Narcissa - whom he never had the slightest hope of
capturing. If there is a tie between Lily and Snape I bet it was a
bond of friendship from mutual respect, shared talent and a possible
goal of healing someone together.

Abergoat