Why Won't Snape Eat At OotP HQ? (WAS: Snape at Grimmauld Place)
h2so3f
h2so3f at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 16 19:59:10 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 157043
Robert wrote:
"For the comment to have an impact on the story from here on out,
you have to consider the current situation. If anything was intended
by JKR with this comment made by Ron, it was just to call Snape's
character into question. This is something she has done throughout
the books. What result can we gather if this was a direct clue to
something? That Snape is bad." <snip>
CH3ed:
I'm a bit slow so I'm not getting how we can conclusively say that
that comment Ron made about Snape never eating at the HQ is JUST
made to imply that Snape is bad/untrustworthy. It just means he
eats 'elsewhere'. And not eating with a group that is hardly
friendly to you doesn't necessarily make you a bad guy, IMO.
If that 'elsewhere' happened to be with the DEs, that still doesn't
present a conclusive evidence that he is bad because we don't know
exactly what he told the other side during those dinners, do we? I
think it makes just as much sense for her to put that comment there
to remind us the OotP members weren't the only people Snape hung
with and to drop us a hint of when Snape hung with the other people.
Robert wrote:
"Well we're supposed to believe he is (bad), aren't we? So the
result is one of two things. 1) He is really a DE and that is why he
didn't want to eat there or 2) He isn't a DE and he is just a jerk
and doesn't like Sirius and Lupin and a lot of the people hanging
out there so he'd rather eat somewhere else. In case you haven't
noticed, Snape isn't much for conversation and fellowship."
CH3ed:
I've noticed that Snape isn't much for conversation and fellowship
(except when he wants to squeeze something out of you like he did
Narcissa at Spinner's End). But have you considered the possibility
that Snape eating... say... with the DEs may have been pre-arranged
and pre-approved by Dumbledore as the setting where he spied on the
DEs for the OotP while passing them false or incomplete info? In
which case Snape wouldn't be a bad guy at all.
As a side note, you haven't seen me posted for a long time now
precisely because I'm not into making big deal out of things (and if
that's what you think that's being done here, it's probably
understandable considering the way this forum has been going with
all the abuse/not-abuse, ESE-everybody-in-sight, etc, that move us
nowhere in the story).
I'd say tho, IMHO, this quiet little clue sounds more like she is
hinting something at us a lot more than many other 'clues' that have
been brought up the past few months. If JKR wanted to have Ron make
a remark casting Snape in a bad light, she could have done it better
by having Ron comment that Snape made some disparaging remarks about
the cooking or the state of the HQ, etc.... instead of noting his
absence at dinner time. That was leading somewhere. Snape wasn't at
HQ when they ate, where was he?
CH3ed :O)
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