Lupin vs Snape (was Lupin and "Severus")

[Sydney]

No: HPFGUIDX 157046


> Alla:
> 
> But but... doesn't the fact that Lupin was **passively** helping an 
> innocent man shows that Snape is indeed extremely unreliable when it 
> comes to Marauders?

Sydney:

Well, but Lupin thought Sirius was guilty as well.  As we're going to
Lupin's character here, it's his frame of mind that's important.  So,
yes, Lupin was okay with witholding information that allowed a
mass-murderer to go into the castle.  


> Snape maybe right sometimes about guessing the actions, but he is oh 
> ever so **wrong** about the motivations IMO.

Sydney:

No he's not.  Lupin thought Sirius was guilty. This is not a
glossable-over factor.

Alla:

> It is the same thing with Harry, IMO. Yeah, Snape often knows when 
> Harry is in trouble (probably by Legilimency), but is he often right 
> about Harry's motivations, about **why** he breaks the rules?
> 
> Not in my book, ( Harry's Hogmead trip being an exception of course).


Sydney:

And when Harry lies about the HBP potions book.  I'm trying to think,
when was Harry breaking the rules for noble reasons?  I'm sure there
are instances, but it's not like that's all he ever does.  He often
breaks rules because he wants to have fun, be allowed to play
Quiddich, and do his own thing.  All common goals but not really noble
ones!


Sydney:

> The very good example of course is " have you forgotten that Sirius 
> Black tried to kill me" ( paraphrase) and Dumbledore's "my memory is as 
> good as ever" AND JKR promise that we **will** find out more about 
> Prank.
> 
> Would you accept a bet that the right answer is :
> 
> No, he did not? :)


You're on. ;)  I'd say Dumbledore's line is saying, 'yeah, and I also
remember the bit where you joined a neo-Nazi organization, so maybe
casting stones isn't a great thing for you to be doing.'.

-- Sydney