[HPforGrownups] Re: Will Harry Die? Or just "defeat" Voldemort?

[Robert A. Rosenberg]

No: HPFGUIDX 157053

At 15:26 +0000 on 08/16/2006, spookedook wrote about [HPforGrownups] 
Re: Will Harry Die? Or just "defeat" Voldem:

>Mouthpiece49
>
>I can't for the life of me figure out how Harry could "defeat"
>Voldemort without killing him. And by the way I don't think that
>killing someone in pitched equal battle is the kind of "murder" that
>will split your soul. I think the soul splitting murder has to be
>with extreme cruelty. Else every soldier would have a split soul.
>
>Logically, "defeat" would be that state of being 180 degrees from
>Voldemort's present state, pure evil, i.e., pure good. So Harry
>would have to do something to Voldemort that makes him "good"? What
>about Harry vanquishes him in battle and spares his life? Then
>Voldemort is beholden to Harry and bound by allegiance to protect
>Harry (or whatever happens when one wizard saves another wizard's
>life) so he can't be bad any more or else he would, what, die or
>something? What do people think of this?
>
>This is why I think he will vanquish him by taking him alive through
>the veil. It must be weird to be in the afterlife and not be
>actually dead, although you appear dead to those left behind in th
>Potterverse.
>
>Tinktonks responds:
>
>Dumbledore says time and again that there are worse things than
>death. And I agree. The Longbottoms for instance. I would rather be
>AK'd than tortured into insanity unable to recognise the people whom
>you once loved?
>
>Personally I think love will be the key. The ministry has the power
>of love in one of the rooms, more powerful, more wonderful and more
>terrible than any other. I think this will be LV's downfall. He will
>be subject to all the love that his victims families felt for their
>murdered loved ones. He will be destroyed inside by the pain that
>love has brought. When this hits him Harry will have the choice,
>fulfil the prophecy or walk away. He will walk away, Voldemort's
>parting shot is an AK before he dies of the pain from so much love
>and hurt, Wormtail takes the fall.

I think that the question of if Harry must die to defeat LV (or can 
survive after defeating him) is based on which Mythos you want to 
apply to the H vs LV conflict. If you choose the "Cosmic Balance" 
Mythos, you have a situation where the existence of Pure Evil will 
trigger the rise of an opposing Pure Good force to balance the 
equation (and vice versa where an Pure Evil can arise to oppose an 
already existent Pure Good). This means that a Pure Good will be 
required to Kamikaze/Suicide as a "Final Attack" to defeat the Pure 
Evil (or either "Burn Out" so as to no longer be an active "Pure Good 
Force" or die as the result of the final battle) or risk triggering a 
newer (and probably even stronger) "Pure Evil". Of course a different 
mythos may be at work in the Potterverse that will not require Harry 
to die or lose his powers but the "Cosmic Balance" (or a variant) is 
the usual way these Archetypal Situations work out.