Voldemort killed personally?

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 157174

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mcrudele78 at ...> wrote:

Geoff:
> > No. but there is a subtle difference. The name of this thread is 
> > 'Voldemort killed //personally//".
> > 
> > I take that to mean situations where he himself pointed the wand 
> > and cast the curse. It's a bit like having a contract killer to do 
> > your dirty work for you. You are still guilty of the murder.
> > 
> <snip> 
 
Mike:
> As long as we are getting off on the Murder_for_Horcrux_making 
> thread, I'd like to interject some canon myself. Check pg 498, HBP, 
> US, you know the part. Sluggy say, "By *committing* murder." Not 
> commissioning murder, not causing the death with malicious intent, 
> not duping another to perform the act. I checked my dictionary, 
> committing means performing, actually doing. Whether Tom would be 
> guilty in a court of law for Myrtle's death is immaterial as to 
> whether Tom could have made a Horcrux from it. (yes, Geoff, I 
> understood that you weren't saying this.) We have no other 
> explanation besides Sluggy's, so I'm forced to accept his. IOW, in 
> order to perform the Horcrux creating spell successfully, it must be 
> done in conjunction with a murder by the *hand* of the horcrux 
> creator.

Geoff:
I am in agreement with you here in that I was trying to make the point 
that even if Voldemort encouraged/incited/ordered the Basilisk and 
Pettigrew inter alia to commit murder, he did not actually say the words 
and thus, in the case of Cedric, if anyone's soul got split, it was 
Wormtail's.

I was writing very late in the evening after a busy day and probably didn't 
make my point with my usually efficient clarity and perception.
:-))