What Came First: Task or Cabinet? - The Plan v1 & v2

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 30 20:32:16 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 157647

Magpie wrote:
> Sorry, I guess I was being careless about that aspect (whether his 
> anger came primarily from the MoM fiasco or the diary) since I 
> honestly didn't think that was a central issue.  The actual thing I 
> was being vehement was not that Voldemort may only be angry about 
> the Diary, but that it is Voldemort's anger at Lucius that leads him 
> to give Draco the task of killing Dumbledore.  

Carol responds:
Actually, no. Canon doesn't say that Voldemort's anger at Lucius leads
him to give Draco the task of killing Dumbledore. What we have is
Narcissa's speculation that that's the case and Snape's confirmation
that Voldemort is angry at Lucius. Nothing about one causing the
other. Here's the canon again, quoted from Steve's post upthread:

--- HBP HB, Am Ed, Pg 34 ---
...said Snape flatly. "I cannot pretend that the Dark
Lord is not angry with Lucius. Lucius was supposed to be
in charge. He got himself captured, along with how many
others, and failed to retrieve the prophecy into the
bargain. Yes, the Dark Lord is angry, Narcissa, very
angry indeed."

"Then I am right, he has chosen Draco in revenge!" choked
Narcissa. "He does not mean him to succeed, he wants him
to be killed trying!"

For the record, Snape says *nothing* in response, neither confirming
nor denying Narcissa's speculation. So, yes, LV is angry at Lucius for
the MoM fiasco, but there's no confirmation that his anger is the
reason that Draco was assigned the task.

As I said upthread in a post you didn't respond to, neither Narcissa
nor Snape knows anything about Draco's Vanishing Cabinet idea, so
neither of them can know whether Draco went to Voldemort with his idea
for getting into Hogwarts and was assigned the task of killing
Dumbledore as a resort or Voldemort ordered Draco to come to him. We
just don't know, and you're concluding a bit too much from the canon
we're presented. 

In case you'd like to answer the arguments I presented in that post,
the number is 157603.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/157603

Carol, whose mind is foggy from a cold and doesn't want to present her
arguments all over again







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