Harry, Draco and bathroom/ A couple of theories - Snape

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> Magpie:
> Harry is absolutely defending himself--from actual hexes. I think
that's
> one of the reasons the whole thing is so shocking from his pov, 
that
he's
> not really ever feeling angry at Malfoy in the bathroom. He really
never
> loses control. He just reaches for the spell he thinks will take
care of
> things and he's not expecting what he gets. He does feel twinges of
> conscience about it, which I hope will be explored later, because 
he
did
> almost kill someone violently, which went beyond defending himself.


Alla:

Okay, can post again before go to bed. I am responding to one point I
strongly disagree with ( funny how disagreements often dissappear
when we go from extreme positions and meet somewhere in the middle),
because it seems to me that "Harry never losing control in this 
scene"
is not what happened.

He indeed almost killed someone violently, but I absolutely do not
think that he went one ounce beyond defending himself in this scene.

He almost killed someone because he used the spell that he did not
know the meaning of. Stupid is as stupid does, no argument from me.

But I completely disagree that it was just reaching for the spell 
that
takes care of things. I think tripping and wet on the floor counts
pretty good for "losing control"

But I let Amiable Dorsai speak for me here :)

"When Harry slipped and fell on the now-flooded floor, Draco 
attempted
to use the Cruciatus curse on a downed opponent.

It was only then, on the floor, soaking wet and desperate, that Harry
used the Sectumsempra curse. Up until then, he had tried to defend
himself with fairly benign magic.

"Near-murder"? No, it wasn't anywhere near murder.

And wouldn't have been even if Draco had bled to death."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/155354?
threaded=1&l=1


This is also makes me think again that maybe subsconsciously Harry
felt something for Malfoy crying ( not much of course, but tiny
something, maybe) - because only several pages ago he wanted to try
Sectusemptra oh ever so badly and when he starts fighting with 
Malfoy,
defending himself, this is still not the first curse that he fires,
only the act of desperation (IMO of course, but I absolutely do not 
see that Sectusemptra is a calculated move on Harry's behalf to take 
care of things).

JMO,

Alla.