Harry, Draco and bathroom/ A couple of theories - Snape

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> a_svirn:
> But who says anything about murder? Magpie said Harry "almost killed
> someone violently" and that it "went beyond defending himself". 
That's
> perfectly true. 

Alla:

Yes, first part I agree with. If you mean that the results of the 
curse went beyond defending himself, I would probably agree too, but 
the use of the curse itself - no I disagree that it went beyond self 
defense.

I consider Harry being stupid because he wanted to try the curse in 
the first place. That should have never entered his head - to dream 
of trying the curse marked for enemies at that and the meaning of 
what he has no idea about.

But when faced with the dangerous situation and defending against 
unforgivable - I consider it to be perfectly logical to fire the 
curse that marked as **for enemies**. Am I making sense? This curse 
should have never entered Harry's brain in the first place, he should 
have stopped thinking about it, period, but as long as it is there, I 
do think it was a self defense to use it.


a_svirn:
<SNIP>
Draco almost died brutal and torturous death. He was
> being methodically butchered. Methodical inflicting multiple and 
fatal
> wounds can hardly be called self-defence. 
<SNIP>

Alla:

The word which I am taking a disagreement with here is 
**methodical**. I consider the circumstances under which Harry used 
the curse to be anything but methodical, more like very stressful 
ones. IMO of course.


a_svirn:
Granted, Harry didn't know
> what the curse does, but I, for one, am not sure that his ignorance
> could have been a sufficient excuse had he indeed killed Draco. It
> could have been a consideration, but I'd say the 
principle "ignorance
> is no excuse" should apply for the offensive magic.
>

Alla:

Yes, of course. Harry would have suffered for his stupidity. 
Nevertheless, I would still say that the use of the curse itself was 
a self-defense.